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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen_Cerfrumos View Post
    After you try big fishing, all other forms of RNG seem completely tame in comparison.

    Can I complain about fishing for a second? I hate how after discerning the method for catching certain fish, the actual act of catching said fish is just pressing a button and hoping for the best over and over again.
    What happened to "If it isn't fun, it has no place in the game"? Fishing isn't fun.
    Right? I love how fishing just barely doesn't give you enough time to tab out and switch songs or whatever without making you miss the fish too. You can't start an attempt and tab out, you have to do it while your character isn't doing anything, wasting time, or risk doing it while your character is fishing and missing the fish -.-.

    But yes please, reduce the RNG. I'd rather do a long, non-rng grind than an all or nothing rng grind.

    Edit: And as I type this, I just did 3 ixal crafting attempts. First one had a 24% chance of success and failed. Normal. Next two both had an 81% chance of success, and failed. Doesn't matter if I have a supposed high chance of failing or succeeding, the game always tends to lean towards failing it seems >.<

    I should have just stayed quiet, now RNGesus is angry.
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    Last edited by Adire; 04-27-2015 at 05:25 AM.

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    another 1 of thse threads.... range in ff14 is nowhere near as bad as any free to play game ._. would you prefer they just handed you everything on a silver platter so didnt have to work for anything?? took me 50+ av runs for zodiac drop most dungeons was 15-20 runs had 3 less then 5.. yet i think the range is fine keeps ppl loggin in working towards somethin ffs - -''
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    another 1 of thse threads.... range in ff14 is nowhere near as bad as any free to play game ._. would you prefer they just handed you everything on a silver platter so didnt have to work for anything?? took me 50+ av runs for zodiac drop most dungeons was 15-20 runs had 3 less then 5.. yet i think the range is fine keeps ppl loggin in working towards somethin ffs - -''
    But FFXIV is not free to play.
    There is no "Buy this to have more attempts at this pure RNG" gimmick. No in FFXIV, it's "Waste more time to have more attempts at this pure RNG". Time being money.
    But time isn't only money, as some in the thread have indicated, people are being burned out.
    I'm about to be burned out myself to be honest...this zodiac is...wearing my soul off every black dropless screen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarta View Post
    But FFXIV is not free to play.
    There is no "Buy this to have more attempts at this pure RNG" gimmick. No in FFXIV, it's "Waste more time to have more attempts at this pure RNG". Time being money.
    But time isn't only money, as some in the thread have indicated, people are being burned out.
    I'm about to be burned out myself to be honest...this zodiac is...wearing my soul off every black dropless screen...
    you do relise zodiac weapon is completely optional right?? if people dont like the range instead of whinging about it every 5 mins just settle for another weapon that isnt as reliant on range.. considering in 2 months theres gonna be a completely new relic weapon with even more range and 10000 topics complaining about it lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawnie View Post
    you do relise zodiac weapon is completely optional right?? if people dont like the range instead of whinging about it every 5 mins just settle for another weapon that isnt as reliant on range.. considering in 2 months theres gonna be a completely new relic weapon with even more range and 10000 topics complaining about it lol
    People have a right to complain about things within the game if they don't like those things or can see an issue with it. We're paying customers here. A lot of people do not have the kind of time FFXIV requires for its RNG-inspired mechanics. Also, the relic weapon questline offers the best weapon in the game. Obviously people want it... I want it.

    I just legitimately don't have the time to get it. On one of my only days out of two off (of the week...), I got my weapon to i100... It took me 9 freaking hours to do that. Apparently it used to be worse than this too?! Like no, I am sorry, but I am not spending the few amounts of time I have off of work on something so utterly unfun. It's horribly ridiculous, and I cannot honestly believe even the Japanese players truly enjoy it...
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    Last edited by Elmeron; 04-27-2015 at 10:41 AM.

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    I'm just going to add here that if you are looking at getting through the zodiac weapon right now, at this point in the game cycle, you are probably not going to get as much reward as the work you are going to put into it. The time to get your relic has been over the past 9-11 months. There is a point where the amount of time given to get it allows the "Law of large numbers" to overcome the laws of RNG. however, less than two months before an expansion completely invalidates the item is not one of those times.

    If you want an efficient use of your time, get a poetics weapon, augment it, and then wait for HW to come out. Then, do the HW relic from the very beginning of the cycle. You will get much more enjoyment out of the work you put in that way.

    This is the point where we can honestly say to new players "You already missed the train on the meat of ARR. Time to prepare to catch the train to HW."
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    Last edited by tocsin; 04-27-2015 at 11:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmeron View Post
    I just legitimately don't have the time to get it. On one of my only days out of two off (of the week...), I got my weapon to i100... It took me 9 freaking hours to do that. Apparently it used to be worse than this too?! Like no, I am sorry, but I am not spending the few amounts of time I have off of work on something so utterly unfun. It's horribly ridiculous, and I cannot honestly believe even the Japanese players truly enjoy it...
    i can only play 2 hours tops daily too me over a year to complete my relic as i stated b4 theres plenty of other weapons available instead of complainin how rng gods have curse you... 50+ runs alone it took me for av zodiac item not once did i Q.Q :P
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    Don't you just miss the old RNG days of yore that was Phantasy Star Online? 0.0001% drop rates. They actually existed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heskett View Post
    Don't you just miss the old RNG days of yore that was Phantasy Star Online?
    If you saw someone waving around a Dark Flow you could be 99% certain it was duped.

    You also had the RNG of joining a random room and having a hacker corrupt your character into my namesake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NolLacnala View Post
    If you saw someone waving around a Dark Flow you could be 99% certain it was duped.

    You also had the RNG of joining a random room and having a hacker corrupt your character into my namesake.
    Anyone who has played PSO, of all people, should understand why pure RNG is simply useless in this era of MMOs.
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