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    Gaius was a hero.

    Gaius for president of Eorzea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamimarik View Post
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    I was thinking about putting Dahlia on that list honestly, but I knew Pyramid Head (whose-in a sense-sole purpose is to hinder your progression) was more recognizable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Frankly I think batshit crazy villians, who are enemies for no other reason than "of course they are I mean look at that face that is not a sane human being" are vastly overdone already in the genre. Final Fantasy especially has already done this theme to death and back. (And death again, and on occasion back again)
    And the genre being...? MMORPG? Or do you mean the series? As in the Final Fantasy series? because if you mean the series...

    Final Fantasy games that had batshit crazy villains:
    5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 13-2

    Final Fantasy games that had Sherlock Holmes 'super-scheming' villains:
    1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 11, 12, 13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    I got impression they were lovers, from part of dialogue in which he tells her to meet him in his chambers later, also in the way she seems completely obsessed with him.
    I admit to not reading up in her but I also had the impression they were lovers based on that conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Final Fantasy games that had Sherlock Holmes 'super-scheming' villains:
    1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 11, 12, 13
    I beg to differ on these two right here....

    Eald'narche(FFXI) & Vayne Solidor(FFXII) were pretty high on the craziness of it all! Especially there right towards their ends!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    And the genre being...? MMORPG? Or do you mean the series? As in the Final Fantasy series? because if you mean the series...
    Take the MMO off that and what genre does that leave you with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamimarik View Post
    I beg to differ on these two right here....

    Eald'narche(FFXI) & Vayne Solidor(FFXII) were pretty high on the craziness of it all! Especially there right towards their ends!
    Its funny because honestly I considered the Zilart Brothers at first to be crazy however, they successful founded and ran the major hub of Vana'diel, not to mention it was them who honestly unified the other nations, albeit it was for their own gains, but that alone gives more to the scheming arch-type of villainy than that of the crazy one. Vayne from XII was very...excessive and thorough when it came to climbing ranks and ensuring his power, which to me also gives a scheming super-villain arch-type. He was in control and a had a clear plan; crazy villains tend to not really have a plan besides "I'mma kill you".

    I agree that both those characters were 'crazy' at the end but that doesn't really constitute them being crazy villains, it just means that they became desperate (most villains in entertainment medias toward the end tend to exhibit crazy behaviors but that doesn't make them a crazy villain per say)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Take the MMO off that and what genre does that leave you with?
    So you are taking about RPGs in general. Well the genre Role Playing Game is pretty vague... I mean technically role playing games are identified by any game wherein you are placing into the shoes of another person (to play a role, or role play). So we can use the 3874 PS2 games as a loose point, we know that there are sports titles to rule out (soccer, golf, baseball, basketball, football, tennis, hockey, boxing, wrestling, racing), PS2 had new games being released for 10 years from its launch which means that 100 sports titles were launched, but they have competitors so give or take 300 'sports' genre titles launched in the 10 year cycle. That means roughly 3574 games can be considered RPGs (shooters are a RPG as you fill the role of a person, which is why I even listed villains from shooters in my OP). I assume you mean "over half of the titles have crazy villains" when you say its been played to death and back again so that means you are claiming that with just the PS2 games alone that at least 1787 PS2 games contain crazy villains, but since its been played to death and back I assume you mean 75% roughly of the games contain these types of villains so roughly 2680 of the 3574 RPG type games contain crazy villains? I kind of doubt that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
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    Ok I'll give you that on Vayne, but... Eald'narche still strikes me as very crazy from the get-go... someone who "hears the gods" speak to him, there for he wants to "cleanse" the world and bring "paradise" about? Just because you can plot, plan and scheme... doesn't make those plans sane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamimarik View Post
    Ok I'll give you that on Vayne, but... Eald'narche still strikes me as very crazy from the get-go... someone who "hears the gods" speak to him, there for he wants to "cleanse" the world and bring "paradise" about? Just because you can plot, plan and scheme... doesn't make those plans sane.
    Okay, I'll give in to Eald'narche being crazy (I should probably go back and watch those cutscenes); but he was kinda the only one out of all those XI villains that I could see filling that arch-type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Yeah, she was orphaned as a child and Gaius took her in and made her a Legatus.
    Just so you know she was made a tribune, lower ranking than nero to be exact. legatus is gaius' and nael's rank.
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