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    I think crazy characters are better off as a supplement to the main bad guy rather than being THE bad guy. As others have said, a nutter butter of a villain usually has no motivations doing what they do other than "because I can" or using the same logic as trolls do on a forum and that's why some people love insane villians like Kefka and the Joker from the Batman franchise. Cold and calculating villains tend to only show their cards when the time is right and sometimes their reasoning behind their actions can make you at least sympathetic to them or their cause.


    Oh and if you wanna see someone crazy who was recent-ish, look at Cid from FF12. That guy is completely off his rocker.
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    I personally think that both the crazy type villains and the more tactical villains both have their appeal. I do however miss seeing more of the crazy type villains like Kefka. Unfortunately, these type of villains came from a time, age and era where those villains appeared inmovies and tv shows, to the point that it became a cliché. But right now, I'm starting to crave back for one as well.

    Mind you, a crazy type villain, is in my opinion only truely interesting if the story is right. And I usually prefer them in the same vein as how Kefka was in FF6 or Kuja in FF9.

    Basically, stories that makes us trick in a false sense of belief that you're fighting the main villain. Until what the person perceived as being another side-character/villain, decides to jump in at unexpected times, to then take things into his own hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    Nael Van Darnus - Fanatic diviner/religious zealot; becomes possessed by Dalamud/Bahamut and gets boobs (he is probably the closest we have to bat $#!@ crazy villain)
    There was not much religous zealot on him. He was a crazy patriot, who was obsessed with his project meteor and wanted to conquer Eorzea with a big Booom (and test his new toy).
    Discussion between Nael and Gaius (with fan-dub): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAU9...ailpage#t=1825
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    Though a primal may not count. Garuda is pretty bats**t crazy.
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    Just thought I should remind everyone of Folques from the Lancer questline....he's pretty crazy. And that final fight only served to make him worse lol.
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    I'll go out on a limb and say that the Ascians are probably the largest manipulators in the game and probably the game's true villains.
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    If Varis Zos Galvus turns into a Luca Blight-type villain, that would be quite impressive.

    Someone who is a crazy, warmongering type, but is also smart enough to put trust in his generals.
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    Crazy villains can be pretty cool, but they are also kinda... flameable... like Ifrit and the other primals (except Ramuh).
    They all go "I'LL TAKE OVER THE WORLD BECAUSE I WANT TO!" and die right there and then. Most of the story related to them is about how important it is needed to spank them down... and they are never ever to be seen again... (except they are your typical G Gundam char that doesnt actually die when they die even if they die).

    I can see why Schemers works so well on the FFXIV universe... damned lalas...

    On that note, Shiva might be your favorite villain so far.
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    I'm kinda more a fan of having multiples encounters with a really strong opponent. Not for him to trash us all the time though. It'll be nice to have a rival, someone who's on par with you, and sometimes lose, sometimes wins.
    I like it the best when they're slighly weaker, but wins anyway 'cause of a smart move or a well-devised tactic.

    I'm not fond of schemers though! I kinda think we're missing a "loveable villain" in this game. Somewhat iconic and appealing, for whatever reason. Fighting faceless/masked entities is not as fun as having a identified ennemy who's going to give you hell.

    Buuut... that's a plot-wise decision that I respect!
    (I do think we're not focusing enough on each villain. They're dying a bit fast.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virevolte View Post
    I'm kinda more a fan of having multiples encounters with a really strong opponent. Not for him to trash us all the time though. It'll be nice to have a rival, someone who's on par with you, and sometimes lose, sometimes wins.
    I like it the best when they're slighly weaker, but wins anyway 'cause of a smart move or a well-devised tactic.

    I'm not fond of schemers though! I kinda think we're missing a "loveable villain" in this game. Somewhat iconic and appealing, for whatever reason. Fighting faceless/masked entities is not as fun as having a identified ennemy who's going to give you hell.

    Buuut... that's a plot-wise decision that I respect!
    (I do think we're not focusing enough on each villain. They're dying a bit fast.)
    This x 1000. Kind of what I stated in a previous post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    We had something like this in 1.0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGdz...ailpage#t=1003
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W-FQ7amUWk
    You meet him in Coil again, but he changed a bit ^^
    Damn... Cool... And, thanks! I didn't know all that about the background of the most nightmare b***** of the game, t9....

    With reason that battle is so overpowered and so damn many meteors... Now I like it even more... It's too sad actually that we who started at 2.0 don't have those awesome backgrounds here.
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    Last edited by Adrian74; 04-24-2015 at 03:02 AM.

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