Tournament Cheating on Balmung

[Yumi_umi]

They should have made a tourney tree chart thingy tht makes ppl vs eachother ( randomly ) then each time they win they move on to the next round etc.
So ppl can battle best 2/3 with rules like
Round 1 = roullete/ random
Round 2 = normal ( none )
Round 3 = any mode
Each tier in the tourney chart = 1 day
So tournaments would be more frequent which will allow more ppl to feel inclined to give it a go.

But ofc SE messes up and does the
" we leave it to the players to respect and honour the system ".
Ppl exploit and bam only cheaters will win big an ppl who actually tried their best will only reach the top 10 if they r lucky.

[StouterTaru]

I'm not looking to play vs NPC, beating elmer won't get me into the top 3. I want to play against people but i need to determine who is worth playing an who isn't.

From your previous post it sounds like a first win vs another player gives a substantial first time bonus, so get 45 people (or however many matches are in the tournament) to lose to you. If you want to place in the top 3, you have to cheat your way, don't expect to win the tourney by playing the way it was intended.

[RobinRethiel]

Best score on Phoenix was 5047 or so.

Wow, a whole bunch of MGP you got by exploiting and being a total jackass in shout. Seriously SE, please fix this garbage tournament.

Well, main problem of the whole Gold Saucer. You can only get good MGP by:

1) MASSIVE(!!!) grinding
2) gigantic RNG
3) Or this...

That's why most the people I know don't even care anymore for Gold Saucer. They still play, but for them Gold Saucer is a grind fest, no downtime event. Sad but true. :/

[Reyll]

Yeah, and as you can see, the platinum packs that are supposed to act as an olive branch to the rest of us who play fairly screwed me this week, as well. Fun times at the Gold Saucer.

[RobinRethiel]

It's a solution so others will somehow get these winning cards, but well, you don't really need them and they really don't take away this MGP grind problem.

GATE's give more MGP now, true, and that's nice, but in comparison to the higher prices, you still need hundreds. Chocobo race gives more MGP, but for many players, even getting a chocobo which can win the R-300 race alone (and to feed this last chocobo alone will cost ~130k MGP) is a grind they don't want to endure. :/ The few I know who still do it are already annoyed and just have reached pedigree 2 or 3.

And I must say: after I got my winner chocobo, I don't care that much about the races, too. Sure, they now give 400 MGP and I win these most of the time, but it's still a grind to get any points. For those ~170k MGP I would have to win 433 races (after those 1500 you need now to reach pedigree 9 rank 50).


IMO the best solution would be:
More prizes. Glamour prizes and much, much higher MGP gain or lower costs. There may still be some special items, which have high costs, to serve the hardcore grinders. Gold Saucer could also be a second source for many other items already in game. They could let you win food for your riding chocobo (and mine is already 20, I don't need it) in Chocobo Square as an extra, or training coupons, so they get some xp extra or a level up (the prices for Thavnarian Onion are at rock bottom anyway). And so on...

[LunnaRavenheart]

TT Tournament design is fail. Its not worthy to compete in it unless they make true MMR system.
Best thing you can do is do your 45 games with Jonas NPC. You can get about 3500points with 0 effort in few minutes and you can also put cheater on blacklist because he is just jackass.

[Malakai]

Yeah, and as you can see, the platinum packs that are supposed to act as an olive branch to the rest of us who play fairly screwed me this week, as well. Fun times at the Gold Saucer.

....... I feel your pain. I'm pretty much done with the game, there's no enjoyment to it anymore. Being beaten by a skilled player is one thing. Watching exploiters get away with cheating is another.

[RaginCajun]

The simplist solution would probably be fairly unpopular, have the npc's drop the highest amount of tourney points. We all want to play each other, but i want that on an even playing field, and the current system rewards exploiters/cheaters. Least that way everyone gets a fair shot, and it is afterall meant to be fun, and its no fun to be swindled

[Snugglebutt]

I think the simplest solution would be to change it from player rank based to score based only using predefined score ranges for specific rewards. The rank system causes those who do not cheat to be pushed out of the chance of obtaining the guaranteed card and higher MGP but a score based system only would mean anyone who scores high enough will earn the card and the higher amount of MGP. They currently now use score based system for platinum packs and it would mean simply extending that to cover higher ranged score for better rewards and with no player rank based system it would resolve the exclusionary impact that cheaters have currently preventing legitimate players from obtaining the higher ranged MGP and cards.

[Nyantos]

My solution for TT Tournament is simple:

Let Players only be able to play once against a other Char.
Means - you have do play against 45 different Char to use the 45 times you can play.

(If it was already said somewhere - sorry, to many Threads to find/search this)