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    So let's call it win trading. In WoW people got banned for it, or at least had their ranking reset so they didnt get any rewards. SE was really naive to release such an easily exploitable tournament system though. Or they simply dont care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
    Semantics lol
    OK not cheating, "participating in the tournament, playing in a style that a large number of people believe is not traditionally how similar tournaments are played, including trade gil to people so that they purposely lose to you".
    Feel better?
    It has no 'similar tournaments' because it's not a traditional tournament. It's a tournament without rules.
    It's competitive but top rewards are not for a large number of people. They are for a few with the highest score.
    However it's nowhere stated how you should earn that score.
    Meaning you can earn that score by any means possible.
    The tournament allows to buy wins and promotes wintrades because that's the only way to win. It's not forbidden.
    So why are you bashing people who just want to win?
    It's not their fault tournament is set up like this. Blame developers for how it was implemented.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    It has no 'similar tournaments' because it's not a traditional tournament. It's a tournament without rules.
    It's competitive but top rewards are not for a large number of people. They are for a few with the highest score.
    However it's nowhere stated how you should earn that score.
    Meaning you can earn that score by any means possible.
    The tournament allows to buy wins and promotes wintrades because that's the only way to win. It's not forbidden.
    So why are you bashing people who just want to win?
    It's not their fault tournament is set up like this. Blame developers for how it was implemented.
    Are you telling yourself that so you can sleep well at night, "Good Boy"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riepah View Post
    Are you telling yourself that so you can sleep well at night, "Good Boy"?
    It's not about me, I've never been in the top 20.
    But I don't judge people who have the will and determination to win rare cards.
    They did everything to win in these no-rules circumstances and they deserved it.
    But I understand why people make them scapegoats. Too bad you are aiming at wrong target.
    Maybe you should ask developers to fix the tournament instead of posting leaderboards.
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    Wow if this is the mind set of people lets do this.

    Lets rig the
    Olympics
    Every foot ball baseball well every game.
    Lets cheat on everything cause why not use any means necessary right?
    this is the mind set of every one who don't see win trading as cheating.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    Wow if this is the mind set of people lets do this.

    Lets rig the
    Olympics
    Every foot ball baseball well every game.
    Lets cheat on everything cause why not use any means necessary right?
    this is the mind set of every one who don't see win trading as cheating.
    Olimpics, baseball, every other game has rules. It has punishable actions like wintrading. Triple Triad doesn't have any of this. Too bad you don't see a difference.
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    Player Dererk's Avatar
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    Its a tournament its implied that win trading is cheating just because you can't understand common sense isn't an excuse to defend it.
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    Last edited by Dererk; 04-24-2015 at 10:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    Its a tournament its implied that win trading is cheating just because you can't understand common sense isn't an excuse to defend it.
    Please show me any other tournament where you can freely choose your opponent. TTT is 'tournament' only in title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dererk View Post
    Wow if this is the mind set of people lets do this.

    Lets rig the
    Olympics
    Every foot ball baseball well every game.
    Lets cheat on everything cause why not use any means necessary right?
    this is the mind set of every one who don't see win trading as cheating.
    uhm, they actually "cheat" in most of the sports
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    I had to address this...People say this isn't cheating, but exploiting a broken system. Like...Umm...What?

    cheat
    1.
    act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.

    As far as I'm concerned, this is grounds for cheating. They are gaining the advantage unfairly by exploiting the system to win the tournament in a game...within a game...
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