Patch 2.56 comming April 21

[Guevara]

echo and uncapped poetics, imho.

EDIT: Yeah.... AND solo-queue for FCoB also.

[Craiger]

If everything was easily cleared even the 90% "noobies" would have nothing to shoot for.

This^

We can't just group all players as hardcore or casuals... I don't need echo to beat FCoB, why I haven't beaten it yet has nothing to do with it, but echo just removes the thrill of it all.

I put a lot of effort into my DPS, but with every echo step they add, it matters a lot less... What's the fun in it all when it doesn't make a damn difference how bad I play, cause I'll still hit those DPS checks?

This game in general has too many players that can't put out enough DPS, and I'm not even talking about fights with lots of movement, but even in a simple "dummy" fight they don't get nearly enough. Echo doesn't exactly improve this... Just put some effort into it.

Hopefully Alexander normal and savage will make it better...

[Jim_Berry]

If Second and Final Coil are really 20% easier then why are people STILL having problems with them? A company mate of mine runs a static and has made many runs on Turn 9 and still has yet to get a win. He's not some noobie, either, he's a Legacy just like me and has been on the forefront of all the content this game has to offer. I don't get this resentment over the easing of difficulty on Coil, those who care about it have all done it already. Let those who can't get a static group enjoy it for a change.

Because people nowadays clear T5, go straight to T9, and if they win T9, will suffer in FCoB due to certain repeated mechanics. Heck, even those who hasn't fully learned T9 but cleared tend to hurt others in T11 with Lightning for example, because they didn't move away from group.

[Alistaire]

Considering 2.4 issued in FCOB and 2.41 soon after nerfed SCOB, it's safe to assume 2.56 will be nerfs and 10% echo to FCOB as well as the ability to solo queue, alongside some QoL stuff.

It's also a pretty good possibility since SE has said echo will be added before 3.0. No mention of mechanic nerfs in that quote though.

[Cylla]

I hope they will remove the cap for poetic. They removed the weekly cap on many dungeons like WoD, so it'd be nice if they were to do the same for the weekly poetic cap.

^ This. Honestly, I don't see any reason for them not to take it off. Everyone geared in their ironworks/coil gear by now, so why not take it off? Heavensward will have two new tomes upon release, which will make poetic just disappear (maybe. speaking from how they've handled past tomes).

[Guevara]

Because people nowadays clear T5, go straight to T9, and if they win T9, will suffer in FCoB due to certain repeated mechanics. Heck, even those who hasn't fully learned T9 but cleared tend to hurt others in T11 with Lightning for example, because they didn't move away from group.

T9 is a lot harder than t10, t11 or t12 (haven't tried 13 yet), so you can easily be very very good and T10 and be bad forever in T9. Really cannot compare.

[Sapphic]

Didn't they say end of april for the benchmark? It might be tied into the client to use assets from it thus the patch.

[Zfz]

Didn't they say end of april for the benchmark? It might be tied into the client to use assets from it thus the patch.

I doubt it. There will most likely be people who do not have the game yet but have pre-ordered say the ARR+Heavensward package who would want to try out the benchmark. It doesn't make sense to release benchmark assets into the current client. Then you not only have a benchmark tree of assets to manage, you've also got to make changes to the production tree. It's much easier to have independent benchmark assets.

[SpookyGhost]

I put a lot of effort into my DPS, but with every echo step they add, it matters a lot less.

Not to sound harsh, but if you put as much effort into finding a group as you did into your DPS, you would've cleared it by now.

[Nestama]

T9 is a lot harder than t10, t11 or t12 (haven't tried 13 yet), so you can easily be very very good and T10 and be bad forever in T9. Really cannot compare.

I dunno. T9 is a very easy fight up until the last phase (one could say boring). T10 is pretty much T7 before nerf, but more forgiving (as in, don't mess up in the final phase, or else you might kill a player or two). T11 is easy, no question (though a badly timed DC will cause wipes) and T12... honestly, I find that to be harder than T9 as it has a lot going for it in the second phase, is rough on healers in the second and third phase, but eases up in the last phase (though players with or without tethers have to be wary not to be hit by two Phoenix-Egi's... unless a BLM/NIN. Manawall and Perfect Dodge~). There's also the KO penalty to hasten raid wide AoE Death.