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    RiceisNice's Avatar
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
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    I'll sum up what I said in another thread. FCoB fights are designed in a way where echo/overgearing does help, but it has some focus on performing your role rather than the fight. You have the constant pressure of a DPS check, tanks managing cooldowns and healers being on top of mitigation/topping off in each of the turns in FCoB. There's a good balance of both the mechanics and individual role performance.

    In SCoB, all of that means jack shite and you're looking at dancing with the bosses than actually performing the role. You moved during blighted? You're dead. A little bit too close to the Renaud? You're dead. One foot in too deep in anything involving T9? You're dead. Overgearing/Echo does absolutely nothing to SCoB the way it was and it'd never be DF friendly unless they actually changed the mechanics.

    That being said, I really hope they don't do anything other than add echo and maybe nerf T11's trash for FCoB. Honestly it's less overall BS Than SCoB and wouldn't need any other changes to be more player Friendly.
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    Dark Temptations
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Poetics weekly cap unlock...maybe? hopefully?
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    Kehn Son'kur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    If Second and Final Coil are really 20% easier then why are people STILL having problems with them? A company mate of mine runs a static and has made many runs on Turn 9 and still has yet to get a win. He's not some noobie, either, he's a Legacy just like me and has been on the forefront of all the content this game has to offer. I don't get this resentment over the easing of difficulty on Coil, those who care about it have all done it already. Let those who can't get a static group enjoy it for a change.
    are you implying that with a 20 ilvl increase (when the fight came out 110 was the ilvl limit) and echo the fight is not easier? lol. is still a hard fight yeah, but it's a lot easier than what it used to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    I don't get this resentment over the easing of difficulty on Coil, those who care about it have all done it already. Let those who can't get a static group enjoy it for a change.
    Because nobody likes to spend hours training to win something only to have it then handed out later with little to no effort, it belittles their achievement. This is an MMO, it is assumed you meet and socialize with people building up a network. It doesn't require a static to beat anything in XIV, it is more efficient but not at all required.

    In my opinion, those who are equipped to handle the real world will find themselves building that network with competent players. Those who are extremely introverted and only socialize with people who they don't feel threatened by in some sense may never end up with a network of confident players. You can't punish the whole for the failures of the few and in reality the new "story" and "savage" raid modes aim to resolve that.
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    Last edited by Kazama; 04-21-2015 at 02:12 AM.

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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazama View Post
    Because nobody likes to spend hours training to win something only to have it then handed out later with little to no effort
    See: Every other MMO.
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    Yumi Umi
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    Well if they nerf fcob this patch what changes?
    Ppl gonna clear normally as they were farming all week everyday.
    Besides it's pretty close to expac so idk y u'd wanna cling onto something tht will be like lol wut its not even worth the hassle when u can do the new alexander raid etc.
    soon ppl won't do fcob similar to how ppl don't do t3 because its pointless and will only be for clears and maybe crafting materials.
    Hopefully they fix/ add a few more QoL things and tie up some loose ends before 3.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    Well if they nerf fcob this patch what changes?
    Ppl gonna clear normally as they were farming all week everyday.
    Besides it's pretty close to expac so idk y u'd wanna cling onto something tht will be like lol wut its not even worth the hassle when u can do the new alexander raid etc.
    soon ppl won't do fcob similar to how ppl don't do t3 because its pointless and will only be for clears and maybe crafting materials.
    Hopefully they fix/ add a few more QoL things and tie up some loose ends before 3.0.
    I'm sorry, I can't quite understand your language. Did you have a point mixed in there somewhere amongst the u, y, wut, ppl, tht?
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    Arlizz Teirez
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    Maybe this patch's just about letting moogle cap dyeable ...
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    Asuka Kiyomi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kahnom View Post
    Maybe this patch's just about letting moogle cap dyeable ...

    after a 6 hour patch to just make the v-day outfit dyeble this wouldn't surprise me
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    Sometimes you just got to have Some fun

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    Cullen Dionysion
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    Quote Originally Posted by DracotheDragon View Post
    after a 6 hour patch to just make the v-day outfit dyeble this wouldn't surprise me
    Oh god, I almost forgot about that bs. Thanks for the laugh.
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