Thread: Patch 2.56 comming April 21

Originally Posted by Alexia89

If your company mate STILL has not cleared T9 after all this time.... then yeah, he kinda IS a noobie.

So are most of the players then, considering coil is a reserved game for the 'elites' in FFXIV. But hey, wouldn't want content that can be cleared by just anyone, right? I mean those 10% hardcore players would get bored if they didn't have anyone to pick on for being 'noobie'.

Originally Posted by Alistaire

If everything was easily cleared even the 90% "noobies" would have nothing to shoot for.

This^

We can't just group all players as hardcore or casuals... I don't need echo to beat FCoB, why I haven't beaten it yet has nothing to do with it, but echo just removes the thrill of it all.

I put a lot of effort into my DPS, but with every echo step they add, it matters a lot less... What's the fun in it all when it doesn't make a damn difference how bad I play, cause I'll still hit those DPS checks?

This game in general has too many players that can't put out enough DPS, and I'm not even talking about fights with lots of movement, but even in a simple "dummy" fight they don't get nearly enough. Echo doesn't exactly improve this... Just put some effort into it.

Hopefully Alexander normal and savage will make it better...

Originally Posted by Jim_Berry

Because people nowadays clear T5, go straight to T9, and if they win T9, will suffer in FCoB due to certain repeated mechanics. Heck, even those who hasn't fully learned T9 but cleared tend to hurt others in T11 with Lightning for example, because they didn't move away from group.

T9 is a lot harder than t10, t11 or t12 (haven't tried 13 yet), so you can easily be very very good and T10 and be bad forever in T9. Really cannot compare.

Originally Posted by Guevara

T9 is a lot harder than t10, t11 or t12 (haven't tried 13 yet), so you can easily be very very good and T10 and be bad forever in T9. Really cannot compare.

Arguing you can't compare the fights and then saying t9 is harder than t10-t12 sounds a like a comparison, no?

Originally Posted by Guevara

T9 is a lot harder than t10, t11 or t12 (haven't tried 13 yet), so you can easily be very very good and T10 and be bad forever in T9. Really cannot compare.

I'll agree that T9 is harder than T10 and T11. But I would place T12 and T13 above it in difficulty.

Originally Posted by Guevara

T9 is a lot harder than t10, t11 or t12 (haven't tried 13 yet), so you can easily be very very good and T10 and be bad forever in T9. Really cannot compare.

I'd say T9 mechanics are harder than T13's. In the last phase of T13, Bahamut basically goes back to the skills he uses in the first phase and adds/changes a few things (Akh Morn instead of Flatten, tethers on Megaflares and Earthshakers). The last phase of T9 is that crazy DDR game with the tethers and the divebombs that resembles nothing else in the fight.

Honestly, I don't care if they're putting Echo into FCoB. It'll make it that much easier for us to farm and get the last few gear pieces that people in my static want/need for their alt classes. Mechanical nerfs... I don't see much you can do to nerf them mechanically without making it an utter cakewalk. T10 and T11 are pretty simple. T12 I guess I could see a few changes they could make. I really kinda hope they leave T13 alone as they have with the other "Gatekeeper" turns.

Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Honestly, I don't care if they're putting Echo into FCoB. It'll make it that much easier for us to farm and get the last few gear pieces that people in my static want/need for their alt classes. Mechanical nerfs... I don't see much you can do to nerf them mechanically without making it an utter cakewalk. T10 and T11 are pretty simple. T12 I guess I could see a few changes they could make. I really kinda hope they leave T13 alone as they have with the other "Gatekeeper" turns.

This right here.

I honestly don't see them touching the mechanics at all other than what I said earlier because of how strange it would be if they did. Damage nerfs are a given, but mechanics nerf is going to be a tough nut to crack. They probably will leave T13 alone just as they did for the previous coils with T5 and T9 untouched.