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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    What is the point of this thread then? You say you're not upset, but every time someone doesn't agree with you, you just get snippy and passive-aggressive. If you're not upset then get over it and stop worrying about why some random strangers blamed you for the wipe. If you're not upset then don't waste your time posting this kind of thread to begin with. If you're not upset, then stop getting upset.
    Most of that post made no sense at all, but okay. Why would I need to "stop being upset" if I'm not upset?

    I am not being passive aggressive so much as I am defending my stance from people, some of whom are even attempting to claim I said things that I didn't say. There is no lower a debate tactic than that one.

    And as I've said numerous times already. The point of this thread was to share my story to hopefully amuse people as much as it amused me and to remind people to think and give people a chance before crying "noob!" It is not to complain, it is not to get pity.

    As people continue to prove however, people don't read or at least don't understand my posts' points or people's posts who are agreeing with me, despite the proof we have that our stance makes sense, but it doesn't surprise me really.


    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaTaru72 View Post
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    Again, both me and the other healer in my party were pretty much babysitting other parties. I didn't cause anyone to have to do any extra work. My CNJ heals were more than sufficient and prevented anyone from dying that I noticed was about to die with the exception of instant kill mechanics that people failed to address.

    I understand your point, but it does not apply to this situation. WoD does not have a steady, severe, unavoidable raidwide damage output. Any damage that people take that is not lethal can be sufficiently healed with CNJ heals in time, assuming gear is exceptional (as mine is).

    Overhealing is all that would have resulted from me being a WHM, and overhealing is useless, no matter what some people seem to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Most of that post made no sense at all, but okay. Why would I need to "stop being upset" if I'm not upset?

    I am not being passive aggressive so much as I am defending my stance from people, some of whom are even attempting to claim I said things that I didn't say. There is no lower a debate tactic than that one.

    And as I've said numerous times already. The point of this thread was to share my story to hopefully amuse people as much as it amused me and to remind people to think and give people a chance before crying "noob!"

    As people continue to prove however, people don't read or at least don't understand my posts' points or people's posts who are agreeing with me, despite the proof we have that our stance makes sense, but it doesn't surprise me really.
    Honestly, with the kind of attitude you have in this thread I'm starting to feel more and more sympathetic towards the DF group. You're personality really does not do you any favors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
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    You've already shown that you sympathize with them despite someone who was actually there supporting my claims, so it's pretty clear you're already biased, regardless of the evidence supporting me.

    I also still fail to see how me defending my stance in a civil matter, even against people who are outright lying or assuming to make me look villainous is having a bad attitude. It seems like you're the one being passive aggressive here, especially given that you continue to prod at me personally.

    Even your first post was quite militant and directly assuming the worst of me.

    And unlike some, I am not afraid to quote if needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Overhealing is all that would have resulted from me being a WHM...
    With soulstone :


    Same gear without soulstone :


    You absolutely gimped yourself for no reason whatsoever and your "I know better than you" attitude despite failing to grasp basic concepts like Soulstones = more base stats is why they were pissed at you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    With soulstone :
    I apologize, but I'm not getting what you're trying to say with this picture.

    WoD's raidwide, non instakill damage is low enough and sporadic enough to allow a CNJ to have more than ample time to react and heal. It's how the dungeon works. Not a lot of direct damage, lots of mechanics that will kill regardless of healing if they aren't dealt with.

    Given that I spent about as much time healing as a CNJ as I would have as a WHM, it reinforces that point even more.

    Edit: I don't think your post fully loaded for me at first.

    Anyways, you don't really think 20 MND and 300 VIT, and 300 MP are that much of a difference between the two, do you? Because they really aren't. You should be healing only marginally better as a WHM vs as a CNJ if using the same skills, like cure I. That 20 mind is even less significant when you already have more than good enough heals just from the gear you have.

    And here you go insinuating that I said things that I never said again.

    I grasp the concept.

    That's why I went in as a CNJ, to hopefully challenge myself a bit more. If I didn't grasp the concept, I wouldn't have done that as a challenge.

    I am not the fool you're trying to spin me into being.
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    Last edited by Adire; 04-20-2015 at 02:25 AM.