Revelations from Patch 2.55 [SPOILERS]

[Rannie]

That was good moose

[Bloody]

Moose hit the nail on the head for why she requested the WoL imho. We are the beacon of light, hope, and strength in the storyline. Who wouldn't look to us for courage?

[Cilia]

Yeah cilia you don't have your weapon for at least part of the cut scenes at least not when you go in to see nanamo nor when you are thrown to the ground by ilberd. I double checked last night and made sure my in game weapon view was turned on.

Edit: You don't have your weapon until you Cid lands you in Coerthas and you get off the enterprise.

You actually get it back after the caravan drops you off at Black Brush Station. Presumably Pipin got your weapon(s) for you when he was freeing Alphinaud.

Regardless, that's... not really the point. Point is you had your weapons confiscated before going to meet Nanamo in private, which doesn't feel particularly odd or unfair to me.

[Rannie]

ahhh thanks for that unfortunately when i rewatched them i didn't see it until being dropped off in coerthas

blah it's what i get for having the iron works cane instead of the thyrus so i over looked it >.< my bad. thank you again for the point out appreciate it.

[Vydos]

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Thank you for your input Moose. This widened my perspective on viewing the scene and how it could be interpreted.
And you strike a good point. I can see someone like Nanamo, who indeed lived a sheltered life, simply seek a shoulder to support on. Considering Raubahn's large shoulder seat couldn't be used. (small play of words lol)

Which like you said, does give a person a reason to take a sip of their glass. The sense of relief leading to giving a person their sense of appetite back.

I guess, I'll have to wait and see in a few months what it will end up being. And which direction S-E will take with the story. Yoshida did admit that he loves Game of Thrones and that FFXIV story is a dark fantasy type. So a Nanamo death isn't out of the question.

[lololink]

If they are going to enter GoT mode don't start loving any characters, the more you likes them, the likelier they are to end up dead.

Which means that Alphinaud and Minfilia are immortal !

[RobinRethiel]

I guess, I'll have to wait and see in a few months what it will end up being. And which direction S-E will take with the story. Yoshida did admit that he loves Game of Thrones and that FFXIV story is a dark fantasy type. So a Nanamo death isn't out of the question.

Really hope not. FF is not GoT, which is mainly a world full of rape and murder, where nothing exists worth so be saved at all. To mix both would just create an abomination, not GoT, but simply a... raped FF. I'm not even sure if Martin himself knows how this story should find an end, depressing or not.

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5. I could have stayed for a trial and proved my innocence!
-Ah, no. With Nanamo dead and Raubahn imprisoned (under lawful charges of murder, however sympathetic he might have been), the law can now be bought and sold in Ul'dah. The only people that could testify to your innocence (Laurentius and Ilberd) are known traitors as well, and it's highly unlikely you'd get honest testimony out of them. Assuming there's a jury the Monetarists / Lolorito could probably bribe enough of them to get an outcome favorable to them. They also probably have the judges / magistrates / whatever in their pocket. So good luck with that one.

Honestly, the only bit of writing I have a problem with is where Laurentius insists you take the vial. I immediately get suspicious when people insist I do things. Aside from that though I didn't feel like any of the writing was particularly flawed, and instead of being outraged at how my PC was made... you know... Hyuran (or Roegadyn, or Lalafellian, or Miqo'te, or Elezen) came out feeling more like this in the end.

You don't even get it, that you are talking with yourself, mainly, can this be? You argue against your own made up points. Well, have fun with that.

The only real argument against one of my points, which is just one of many, would be the last. But that's just wishful thinking of you. You can't just kill of someone that well known like the WoL. Whole Eorza knows us. And Lolo got a problem already, because HE is the one with the motive. He can't need blood on his hands in this situation. Money becomes very quickly useless, if you bath in blood and he does not have the military power be ruler by force. - Not yet. Sure, his whole plan may be anyway to make Uldah an exklave of the empire with him as governor. But even this does not happen in one day. He needs time and he needs everyone running away and letting him do his work. Well, we gave that to him. Everyone did. It's the dangerous game of appeasement...

Blatantly false. Pay attention to every cutscene that takes place in Ul'dah - YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR WEAPON. *facepalm*

And again you make the same mistake. I don't discuss this with you. There is no scene were we give away our weapon. Period. If they don't state clearly, that we don't have a weapon - which also means, that we must be allowed to behave differently, since we know, this a dangerous place - then we still have our weapon. Period. If you like you can say we don't, sure. As I can say, we do.

Linkpearls exist. You know, that thing that Minfilia keeps bugging you with. They could sound the "alarm" and the smallfolk would be none the wiser. The Brass Blade rush would just look like some sort of incident happened in some other part of Ul'dah and they're moving to stop it.

It's still a f**** army. Even if they all got their personal smartphone, people SEE this. Why can't you think a bit about it. Please try at least. Don't just create your own fantasy world inside you head where everything is exactly like you want it. If you want to make a point, you must think about its problems. Else it is none.

Why would they need to when they're already outside the doors, everywhere in the city, ready to move at a moment's notice?

Sure, why don't they just turn us all into chicken or puppets for their fireplace. It's absolutely impossible to keep something this big secret. The point you make would make the whole scene ten times more absurd. It would be far more worse.

Did you even read the PLD story dialogue? It's confirmed that a portion of the Sultansworn is paid off by Monetarist coin.

You really need to do some fact checking, because you're only making yourself look worse with each post.

I did, I'm just not playing the blind fan, who cheers to everything served and defends it with full brutal force. You want, that all Paladins are corrupt, that all Brass Blades are corrupt, that all Flames are corrupt or dumb, that the leaders are corrupt or blind and dumb. You are bending the whole world, so that this coup makes sense. And you are making it worse with that. Because if it would be, as you say, then not only this scene and it small problems would got problems, then the whole main story especially of Uldah would be... simply bad. You try to ruin the game story to defend some minor points. Really?

[Fenral]

Game of Thrones er, rather A Song of Ice and Fire is not the darkest series I've ever read. It's around the lower-middle end of the spectrum, as I see it, and perfectly capable of ending in a moderately uplifting manner and without everyone dead on the floor. Then again, I've read series where every single main character was dead on the floor at the end (and they were kids!), so my perspective is skewed.

FFXIV is trying, but doesn't quite yet understand the logic to how GRRM handles characters (and death).

[Viridiana]

FFXIV is trying, but doesn't quite yet understand the logic to how GRRM handles characters (and death).

I thought his logic was to literally flip a coin? Or have I been misinformed?

But, yeah, even not having read GRRM's stuff, I've seen plenty darker than what FFXIV has done so far.

[Fenral]

I thought his logic was to literally flip a coin? Or have I been misinformed?

You've been misinformed. Major characters only die in ASoIF when their deaths will have maximum impact: usually when they're on the verge of doing something that we, as readers, are full aware will have serious and far-reaching consequences, for better or worse. The shock factor comes from the realization that the story now has to continue without whatever that character was going to contribute.

Thus far the only death that has fit those criteria is Nanamo herself, and her fatal flaw was, like a certain Hand of the King, letting too many people know she had cards to play but spinning her wheels too long on actually playing them, all the while not expecting the absolute worst from her political rivals. We feel the full weight of her death because we know exactly what she was about to do, but now know that it can't happen even as the story continues.