The final part of ARR story doesn't make enough sense.

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Where were we before the RW got pulled into this topic? Oh yea, what exactly could we have done at that moment other than run for our lives? Cause knowing how Lolorito and the Syndicate work our chances of survival were not looking very good. Especially since they captured our HQ in Revenant's Toll before hand. So we were outnumber, were stuck in a hostile area with the enemy having home field advantage, AND they captured our headquarters along with anyone that was still loyal to us.

Sounds like fleeing to Ishgard was the only option since the Braves were also stationed in Gridania and Limsa and could have just dragged us back kicking and screeming if we went there with verry little the city powers could do to stop them with out causing a war and collapsing the alliance. Just sad that Minfilia didn't make it out with us..... I liked Minfilia.

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<Clears throat>
Where were we before the RW got pulled into this topic? Oh yea, what exactly could we have done at that moment other than run for our lives? Cause knowing how Lolorito and the Syndicate work our chances of survival were not looking very good. Especially since they captured our HQ in Revenant's Toll before hand. So we were outnumber, were stuck in a hostile area with the enemy having home field advantage, AND they captured our headquarters along with anyone that was still loyal to us.

Sounds like fleeing to Ishgard was the only option since the Braves were also stationed in Gridania and Limsa and could have just dragged us back kicking and screeming if we went there with verry little the city powers could do to stop them with out causing a war and collapsing the alliance. Just sad that Minfilia didn't make it out with us..... I liked Minfilia.

The Crystal Braves no longer operate in Limsa or Gridania, just Ul'dah and Revenant's Toll, I imagine they will still send Ul'dah spies into those two cities to look for you though.

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The Crystal Braves no longer operate in Limsa or Gridania, just Ul'dah and Revenant's Toll, I imagine they will still send Ul'dah spies into those two cities to look for you though.

Valid point. I had to go to Limsa and Gridania and sure enough, no braves in sight. Of course there weren't really a lot of them to start with, and the scions killed quite a few of them, and they rounded up the one's that refused to betray us (There must have been more than a few since they specifically referenced capturing some as a "Phase" of the plan). So the simple fact is maybe they needed to be reallocated in order to fill out the empty ranks and organize.

As for spies though, I have no doubt that Lolorito could have hired some pirates or bribed some wood wailers to grab us and send us back to Ul'dah with out any one knowing. And Ul'dah has more than it's fair share of criminal gangs to help him out. (The Alicrain and Haze to name specific ones) All they'd know is one minute go for a walk in the twelves wood or market street and the next there's an arrow in our spine or a knife in our gut. I think the Elementals might tell on em though in Gridania. Kan-E can speak to them after all. and The Rouge's Guild might tell the Admiral that a Pirate or an Outsider knifed us in the street. So there's that.

Still, Ishgaurd's habit of shutting the door in outsider's faces is a good defence. After all think how hard it was for US to win their trust. And no one likes answering noesy Merchants questions, especially one's from Ul'dah, so they'd never accomplish anything in Coerthas. Not even Recon.