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    RyuujinZERO's Avatar
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    K'hali Thalen
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    [Spoilers!] White magic beyond the padjal

    So, it's long been a sticking point - especially for the roleplaying community - that white magic is only known to the padjal and; if they took that path, the Warrior of Light. And nobody else

    I remember overhearing that Square wanted to 'fix' that and introduce some people beyond the padjal who also know the secrets of white magic.



    Did the end of ARR just reveal that 'other group' might be the Sharlayans?



    During the escape Y'shtola casts what appears to be Holy, I've heard some people saying she simply converted her life force into a mana bomb, but if you look at the spell after she releases it the projectile continues to slowly rising, drawing more and more aether from the ground and surrounding environment; like holy, rather than being linked to Y'shtola herself (Who, importantly doesn't dissipate either). Square hasn't historically been lazy with details like that, for example it's very clear when Moenbryda converts her life force into aether sacrifically.

    At any rate, it just seems plausible, in combination with what Y'shtola did that the Sharlyans with their immense knowledge of aether and magic either have knowledge of forbidden white magic at their disposal, or at the very least have rediscovered some of their secrets for themselves.
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    While I don't think she's a whm mage, that doesn't mean that she couldn't have found a way to replicate a whm spell.

    Afterall, WHM is a school of magic and being a scholar and student of Louisoix himself it's not out of the realm of possibility that she created a variation of Holy.

    It's interesting that instead of focusing her energy to her wand. She focuses it on her hands and make incantations. Though I'm guessing current WHM have to meditate to communicate with elementals to help charge up their spells

    Based on the dialogue it seems to have been a dangerous spell to use.....or maybe they were just using parting words since the brass blades would be on their way.
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    I believe they implied that the Lambs of Dalamud would rediscover white magic, "a group with less than good intentions" or something to that effect.
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    I didn't play the Summoner Quests, but she mentioned her sister Y'mhitra who is a Summoner.

    Based on Papalymo & Yda's attack which had the sound of LimitBreak, I figured that Y'shtola also used a Summoner's new LimitBreak.

    If anyone could explain the relationship between both Y'shtola and Y'mhitra, we might know why Y'shtola was appologizing.

    Developers mentioned that each job will probably have thier own LimitBreak. New Summoner LB is like a holy cast? maybe?
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    It's actually been in the ff lore this entire time. There was a nation that practiced and developed white magic, the original people have been wiped out, but there are still factions that attain white magic in "less than favorable" way. Right now, we only see the padjal because that's all that's probably in eorzia, but there are others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwaitum View Post
    I didn't play the Summoner Quests, but she mentioned her sister Y'mhitra who is a Summoner.

    Based on Papalymo & Yda's attack which had the sound of LimitBreak, I figured that Y'shtola also used a Summoner's new LimitBreak.

    If anyone could explain the relationship between both Y'shtola and Y'mhitra, we might know why Y'shtola was appologizing.

    Developers mentioned that each job will probably have thier own LimitBreak. New Summoner LB is like a holy cast? maybe?
    They're sisters.
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    Y'sholta's attack seemed like a super powerful Aero to me. But it could be white magic.
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    And Y'mhitra isn't a summoner, she's just the Summoner quest giver. She's a scholar of the practice, but having never faced a Primal herself, she could not put the theories to the test to revive the art. Thus she needed us to put her theories to the test. It's very similar to how the Scholar story plays out. The questgiver is NOT a member of the art you're learning, just someone familiar with it from research and you are required to learn more because of your skill as an Arcanist.

    Now as for Y'shtola's big thing, it could be a Plot Limit Break... kinda like the Bard in the opening video casting Protect >_> Bards can't do that... It's the "Oh Shit" moment spellcasting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrini View Post
    kinda like the Bard in the opening video casting Protect >_> Bards can't do that...
    That was made at the end of 1.xx, when Bards had Conjurer as one of their subjobs, so they actually could cast Protect before ARR changed that. I know our Bard sometimes misses being able to cast Sacred Prism + Stoneskin, too.
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    I would say it looks more like Holy to me.

    But being Sharlayan, wouldn't Y'shtola able to conjure up some sort of spell looking LIKE white magic?

    If so, how do you explain all the reflect magic she conjures up? There's no "Reflect" spell in the game yet. And about that traitor covering his sword with fire and then unleash a shockwave?

    ....Did we just saw the first sign of a Red Mage? Hmmm.
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