SPOILERS: End of CUL quest after 2.55

[angrygameraaron]

I completed my CUL questline before patch 2.55. What I want to know is, does Nanamo still make her cameo after 2.55 when you complete your level 50 CUL quest, or do they replace her with another city leader?

[Belhi]

I hit 50 too. Im guessing though its the same as before. It would be a lot of work to redo any sidequests that reference the Sultana.

Im ok with them setting quests at certain points in a timeline. Yeah it can be immersion breaking but it frees them up a lot narratively to do things. The realistic alternative is them never having main scenario characters referenced in side quests and vice versa.

[Kuwagami]

Nanamo is still here because lv50 CUL quest takes place in 2.0 timeline. What happens in 2.55 is totally irrelevant

[Fenral]

Another one of these threads? This happens.

Sorry. I kind of have to now. I figured this would be a pretty common question, so I made it my mission to find the answer on day 1 of patch. There was another thread for this still on the first page of Lore, and there have been a few topics in General Discussion as well. This thread has all you need to know to understand what they did and why.

[XiXiQ]

Actually, I'd not be too surprised to find she's not dead at all, though the plot to kill her was real and the handmaiden was a double-agent.

[LineageRazor]

Actually, I'd not be too surprised to find she's not dead at all, though the plot to kill her was real and the handmaiden was a double-agent.

I agree that there is plenty of room for Nanamo to not really be dead, just knocked unconscious or something. We were never able to examine the body, and the only people so far to have asserted her deadness are all evil villians.

That said, I HOPE that she's still dead, not because I dislike the character, but becuase it cheapens the drama if it turns out to all have been just a ruse. We can already expect to see the Scions to have miraculously survived - particularly Y'shtola since she's pretty much become the mascot character for FFXIV. I'd like to see at least ONE lasting consequence from this bold turn of plot. And no, Raubahn's arm doesn't qualify.

Regardless, whether Nanamo is really dead or not, at this point in the storyline the player character, as well as the player, is meant to believe she is dead, so it makes no sense to see her cheerfully eating dinner in the CUL cutscene. Folks have argued that players are just supposed to "know" that the CUL quests happen earlier in the timeline, but I'm not buying it, not unless they provide some kind of indicator that this is the case (like the fuzzy, faded colors associated with Echo flashbacks). "This sort of thing happens in MMO's," is not an acceptable answer to me, not when the staff has been so good in keeping things consistent up to this point.

[Kuwagami]

I agree that there is plenty of room for Nanamo to not really be dead, just knocked unconscious or something. We were never able to examine the body, and the only people so far to have asserted her deadness are all evil villians.

Ilberd specifically said he killed her though.

Regardless, whether Nanamo is really dead or not, at this point in the storyline the player character, as well as the player, is meant to believe she is dead, so it makes no sense to see her cheerfully eating dinner in the CUL cutscene. Folks have argued that players are just supposed to "know" that the CUL quests happen earlier in the timeline, but I'm not buying it, not unless they provide some kind of indicator that this is the case (like the fuzzy, faded colors associated with Echo flashbacks). "This sort of thing happens in MMO's," is not an acceptable answer to me, not when the staff has been so good in keeping things consistent up to this point.

Ever heard of patch continuity ? the CUL quest happens in 2.0. it doesn't matter if you do it during the 2.55 MSQ or during 2.3, or even 4.0 for that matters. The lv50 CUL quest will still be a part of 2.0's era.

Also, the devs knew this was coming. Nanamo's death was written back in December 2013. If they wanted to change the CUL quest, they could have done it. They didn't. Because there is no paradox other than the one players are creating.

The only "fix" would be to force players to do some quests before some others. Like "no you can't do the banquet quest unless you finish the CUL quests". How stupid does that sound ?

[Kaiser-Ace]

That said, I HOPE that she's still dead, not because I dislike the character, but becuase it cheapens the drama if it turns out to all have been just a ruse. We can already expect to see the Scions to have miraculously survived - particularly Y'shtola since she's pretty much become the mascot character for FFXIV. I'd like to see at least ONE lasting consequence from this bold turn of plot. And no, Raubahn's arm doesn't qualify.

Calling it now!!! Cid nan Garlond makes General Raubahn a Magitech left arm to replace the old one.

[Fenral]

I'm sorry there are things in this game that disappoint and upset you, and you feel like nobody understands what you're trying to say about them. I have no idea what that's like.