Please start the new jobs at level 1

[Crevox]

This isn't going to change. They already have the quests and abilities, made and tuned, for starting at level 30. It would take far too much work to change at this point.

[Imoye]

Yeah, sorry. Don't see the appeal in grinding your way through 1-30. There's no fun to be had. This is a nice middle ground where I don't have to bother with spamming fates when I've already completed all the quests.

[NinjaTaru72]

I'm personally glad it's starting at 30, and while I would've straight-up preferred Level 50.

Hell no. No starting at 50. We don't need people who have little to no experience with a job going "lolgreed gear from wod" and jumping into endgame. 30 is disappointing but much better than 50
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Also

Also FF11 new jobs always based around 30, it's not new if you know what your doing. EMBRACE THY LOVE.

Ffxi you had to get to 30 to be allowed to unlock the other jobs, but they started at lvl 1

[CatsBesErrwhere]

New jobS? so theres more than darknite in heavensward? Oh and btw darknite shares gear with warrior and paladin or has his own?

[NinjaTaru72]

New jobS? so theres more than darknite in heavensward? Oh and btw darknite shares gear with warrior and paladin or has his own?

Yeah job(s) as in darkknight, mechanist(sp?) and Astrologian.

[NinjaTaru72]

And hell probably share 90 percent of gear. Outside of Ironworks, and new tomes gear.

[Mugiawara]

All the new zones being locked behind the 2.0 MSQ is also a pitiable argument because there's no reason to have all the new zones locked either.

ITT: People dunno want expansion means...this my first game that'll I will participating in an expac and this is not a hard concept lol.
So correct me if I'm wrong here but you're saying is...the new zones should all be free reign huh? What sense does this make?
You're PAYING the EXPANSION to go to NEW ZONES/JOBS/RACE. and so on. Newbies should not care about the new stuff right now...
They have the whole 2.0 to get to, if anything, seeing those new jobs and other goodies should encourage them to play the game until the end, so they
can unlock all these new fun things.

It's less about mashing buttons and more of the thrill of getting each and every level, no matter how easy or hard it is to achieve, just hear the level up theme just makes me feel like I accomplished something.

Hey but you'll be hearing the little music 90 times now since 3 new jobs and now pushed to level 60. Levelin' to 60 will be a real good feeling.
At the end of the day; let's all be happy it didn't start at 50...........

[Gilthas]

ITT: People dunno want expansion means...this my first game that'll I will participating in an expac and this is not a hard concept lol.
So correct me if I'm wrong here but you're saying is...the new zones should all be free reign huh? What sense does this make?
You're PAYING the EXPANSION to go to NEW ZONES/JOBS/RACE. and so on. Newbies should not care about the new stuff right now...
They have the whole 2.0 to get to, if anything, seeing those new jobs and other goodies should encourage them to play the game until the end, so they
can unlock all these new fun things.

Can you not make arguments without putting words in my mounth? Between all expansion areas being gated and no expansion areas being gated there is a middle ground where some expansion areas are gated and others aren't. Which, you know, isn't a hard concept (and before you make even more of a fool of yourself, you might want to check if there are MMO's that use this middle ground. HINT: you don't need to look far for a MMO that did this).

Should it encourage them? Sure. But lets not pretend that there won't be new players annoyed that they don't have access to any of the cool stuff in the Heavensward trailers without going through a big chunk of the original game. That's why a balance between gated and not gated content is a good thing.

And no, Expansion doesn't mean all the new stuff is inaccessible without completing the original game.

[SDaemon]

Should it encourage them? Sure. But lets not pretend that there won't be new players annoyed that they don't have access to any of the cool stuff in the Heavensward trailers without going through a big chunk of the original game. That's why a balance between gated and not gated content is a good thing.

Let them be annoyed. Asking that players clear the base game's main story isn't asking for much at all.

[Mugiawara]

Can you not make arguments without putting words in my mounth? Between all expansion areas being gated and no expansion areas being gated there is a middle ground where some expansion areas are gated and others aren't. Which, you know, isn't a hard concept (and before you make even more of a fool of yourself, you might want to check if there are MMO's that use this middle ground. HINT: you don't need to look far for a MMO that did this).

Should it encourage them? Sure. But lets not pretend that there won't be new players annoyed that they don't have access to any of the cool stuff in the Heavensward trailers without going through a big chunk of the original game. That's why a balance between gated and not gated content is a good thing.

And no, Expansion doesn't mean all the new stuff is inaccessible without completing the original game.

But this isn't like any other MMO's so...

Oh well then? I think the main problem here is people are mad because they cannot access the new job's right on the dot.
They have to do the same amount of work as the rest of us did. Seriously, you can faceroll 50 in about a few days, then take some time
to run all the story and you SHOULD [if really dedicated] be able to open HW in about a week or two...but don't race to end over it.