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  1. #41
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    Starlord's Avatar
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    Luna Sushima
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    From a person that is at 2.55 and about to reach the new jobs, this doesn't affect me ( obviously).

    If I were starting out new, I would already have the mindset of (Leveling up to reach new content/jobs/whatever). I would know what I am getting myself into from the beginning. I am sure there's at least 1 job/class out of the starting jobs you will enjoy and level it up to finish the story. I just find it hard to imagine 1 person hating all the jobs from 2.0 thus never enjoying the game to reach the newer jobs.

    I see this as "A Goal to reach to obtain these new jobs". I am a person that doesn't like to be handed anything on a silver platter. So personally I would be "okay" with this decision.
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  2. #42
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    All jobs start at lv 30, so logically, the new ones should too.
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  3. #43
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    Yoku Dekimashita
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    RotZ and ToAU jobs weren't gated behind the main storyline either, so yeah.
    FFXI and XIV are different games....That's why.
    Can't always have what XI had.

    Also jobs here begin at 30...you know, WHM,DRG,WAR so on...so...yea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalvy View Post
    All jobs start at lv 30, so logically, the new ones should too.
    "All jobs have base classes, so logically, the new ones should too."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    FFXI and XIV are different games....That's why.
    Can't always have what XI had.

    Also jobs here begin at 30...you know, WHM,DRG,WAR so on...so...yea.
    Exactly, different game. New adventure. You want a new job, earn it. ;D Thank you for your post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirakumi View Post
    Not throwing a fit, just saying the obvious. If you can't handle it, well you could always level to 50. Oh wait you are. QQ less.
    If you're stating the obvious then why the misinformation? Gating jobs behind the 2.0 storyline isn't hardcore nor is having non-gated jobs casual. And that's not even addressing how silly it is to use casual as an insult.

    Oh sure, this issue will not affect me since I'm 50 already and have completed the main storyline. But that doesn't mean that I can't question SE's decision to do this. Imagine a new player seeing the trailers for Heavensward and getting hyped for the game. They buy Heavensward and then find out that all the cool stuff that they saw in the trailer is inaccessible to them until they complete the 2.0 storyline. Doesn't make much sense to me.
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    Last edited by Gilthas; 04-11-2015 at 10:43 PM.

  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirakumi View Post
    Exactly, different game. New adventure. You want a new job, earn it. ;D Thank you for your post.
    I'm trying to find out why is this such a huge deal...like seriously, why is everyone upset? O_o;
    If you really want to be level 1...go and and do FATE's and dungeons from 1-30...you aren't FORCED to go from 30 and up.
    I just didn't want 50 because we'd have so many bad players derping around...at 30, we're at Haukke and got a bit of skills in our disposal.
    Not fun doing 1-2 1-2 skills for x amount of levels. It's going to be real fun, can't wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
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    Well that's how I think expansions should be. It should be about going to the next level from beyond ARR. It's always about a story. I really feel that people who expect to jump right into an expansion without experiencing its core game is not experiencing the game as it should be.

    They are in the mind-set that everything should be handed to them.
    Casual.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    FFXI and XIV are different games....That's why.
    Can't always have what XI had.

    Also jobs here begin at 30...you know, WHM,DRG,WAR so on...so...yea.
    Lol, if you think I want FFXI 2.0 you're sorely mistaken. I loved playing FFXI, but I wouldn't want a repeat of all the bad stuff that the game had too.

    Like someone already pointed out here, all the other jobs have classes, by this logic the new ones should have them too, but they don't.

    As for why this is a big deal for some people, some of us actually like leveling new jobs from scratch. It's stupid that they take out the small grind from 1-30 that can be done in a couple of days.
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    Luna Sushima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    If you're stating the obvious then why the misinformation? Gating jobs behind the 2.0 storyline isn't hardcore nor is having non-gated jobs casual. And that's not even addressing how silly it is to use casual as an insult.
    Every new player will have a different perspective on this topic. Some will say, "Oh cool! something to work towards" ( Achievement hunters more or less). Then there's the other side that will say, "Why can't we have these jobs at the start? I want to level them up as I experience the story!".

    In the end, you can't please everyone someone will have to bite the bullet as someone will be happy and another disappointed. Opinions are great eh? lol
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