Why I have no interest in Coils more specifically, T9.

[LineageRazor]

You mean getting marked with Meteor and Thermionic beam at the same? People wouldn't even bother with such a poorly designed fight...

Well, there's a difference between total randomness and constrained randomness. In phase one of T9, Nael follows that pattern that even I, relatively new to Turn 9, can pretty much do in my sleep, now. Meteor, Beak, Chariot, Therm, Meteor, Dynamo, etc, etc.

The thing is, though, most of these attacks have obvious and lengthy indicators. There's no reason they can't be reactive instead of predictive. There are limits on how random you want it to be, of course - for instance, Meteors should continue to be spaced out pretty much as they are, so as not to wind up in the situation where the number of meteors you have to deal with is a matter of luck, and Ravensbeak should probably be spaced out as well since too many in close succession could be a problem, but everything else? Dives? Thermionic Beam? All but Dynamo have plenty of forewarning (and even Dynamo can be avoided just by making sure you don't stay in particular areas longer than absolutely necessary). You could easily deal with them by reaction, rather than by prediction. It might make the fight more interesting, and I don't think it'd make the fight unreasonably difficult.

This kind of partial randomness may be less feasible in later phases; particularly in phase four when there's so much crap going on all at once. But I think it illustrates the point: When someone asks for a bit of randomness in the fight, something you can't predict but must instead react to, they are NOT necessarily suggesting that the boss should be free to throw anything they want at you at any time.

Shiva Ex is a good idea of a step in this direction. Is she gunna sword? Or is she gunna staff? Players need to wait, be ready, and react accordingly. In sword form, she continues to randomly choose abilities and the tank must react accordingly. This is a very simple kind of randomness, to be sure, but it is still random.

I can understand the OP's frustration, even if I'm personally okay with things as they stand. In making fights almost entirely predictive in this manner, the only ways to increase difficulty are to do things like decrease the allowed reaction time, increase the complexity of things you need to keep track of, and increase the punishment for failing to dance properly. Turn 9 is practically a textbook demonstration of this, having all three of these. Once you have the pattern memorized, though, the fight has nothing left to offer you. For some folks, this kind of thing may be fun. For others, the fun comes in doing a difficult fight that's never the same twice.

[Noshpan]

Welcome to every boss fight in every MMO ever. Yes, even WoW's boss fights are scripted. (Though they're not likely to kill you for pushing phases.)

[ReddAxel]

...go back to Bloodborne then? Two completely different games you're talking about here. Jeez

[Wournsfeik_Untawhasyn]

The thing is the mechanics aren't really that vague. But they are designed to be learned so that when you die at a specific point it's "Okay, who wasn't paying attention". These fights go for a long time, 10 minutes+ at the minimum. The key is keeping track of things as the fight progresses.

It's a different type of challenge entirely. Besides, it's always Lightning Out. Always Always.

[Zohar_Lahar]

As someone who ran WoD within the first few hours of it going live, completely blind, with 23 other people going in blind, we wiped to mechanics that are painfully obvious now. The only reason you can one-shot it now is because people know the fights, even if you don't.

Besides, it's MEANT to be far easier than Coil. Any hardcore raid in any game involves wipes while learning how to deal with mechanics.

Then why does it drop equipment with a higher item level (including base attributes) than T9? Even the High Allagan Weapons are only on par with Shiva Extreme, which is far more sensible in terms of mechanics. The fact that Dreadwyrm gear is only equal to Augmented Ironworks Magitek or Zeta weapons makes me question the current difficulty of the entirety coil.

[Kaisha]

If there wasn't insta-kill mechanics in place people would just stack up and zerg it while the healers overheal to compensate for any damage they receive.

[axemtitanium]

I don't think there's anything vague about the mechanics in coil. There's a giant mark on my head; must mean I'm about to get hit with something. There's a tether on me; must mean I should find a way to break it. The tooltips are extremely descriptive. For example in T9:

• Thunderstruck "Your body is accumulating a lightning charge. Will inflict lightning damage to those nearby when the effect ends." - I should probably get away from people so I don't hit them with lightning.
• Raven Blight "Afflicted by the White Raven's miasma, which will soon cause you to explode." - I probably shouldn't explode on people.
• Subversive Stance "Being commanded to execute actions that disrupt the enemy." - I should probably watch out for this golem; it might try to disrupt me.

I feel that no matter how hard a boss is, you should be able to defeat it on your first blind run through skill alone.

Reading is a skill. You might have learned it in elementary school. If you're good enough at it, you might have been able to figure out all of the T9 mechanics on your first blind run. It's possible!

[Riepah]

I absolutely agree with the OP. It's all about learning, learning, learning - and then hoping that your comrades learn as well and don't keep messing up, over, and over, and over. Skill is barely required. Memorization and competent teammates are what matters.

Reading is a skill. You might have learned it in elementary school. If you're good enough at it, you might have been able to figure out all of the T9 mechanics on your first blind run. It's possible!

Show me where the game mentions or even hints at the fact that the T9 meteors can't be close together or they'll explode and wipe the party.

[Tiggy]

That's how the fights are in this type of mmo. If you don't like this type of MMO then walk away. Clearly you don't like this type of game if these are your complaints.

[zcrash970]

Try Bloodborne and youll see what kind of bosses I want.

LOL! BB is so easy.

Also there is a difference in a single player boss and a mmo boss.

But they dont follow a pattern. Paarl doesnt AOE left swipe right swipe then repeat. Theyre all dynamic fights and in your face that still boil down to reflexes. And even if you wipe, its not because you dropped ameteor in the wrong spot or something, its because you didnt dodge at the right time or wasnt quick enough. Thats the difference. Those games still boil down to reflexes. Coil is just memorization. When I die in a souls game, ive never said "where what the hell was I supposed to do with the target debuff?" or "Well how was I supposed to know where to drop that?" Its always "Dammit I dodged way too soon/late." or "I got way too greedy with damage."

You can force any BB/souls game boss into a certain attack so its not really reflex. Plus they aren't random nor dynamic. They respond to your movements.
If you want fights where you can one shot on a blind run, stay with single player games. They will suit you more