WOD & the Tank LB3

[Raeletta]

Used it several times to save my group.

Also used it several times and got little for it, but it was there, she had 4+ stacks, and dead DPS do nothing.

As for the stay on the cloud thing, I feel it's an incredibly stupid suggestion. No, I do understand how it works, but all I ever see is people thinking everyone else but them will deal with the mechanics. Meaning NO ONE is dealing with them except me, the other tanks and maybe a brave healer or two. If you go in preformed, sure, but I would never risk it with the DF.

[siverstorm]

No she's not. She has a physical and a magical stoneskin, but once you break them, you can do damage as normal. And they're not very strong stoneskins, either.

It's actually kinda funny. The entire issue would have been circumvented if she was just invulnerable until all the clouds were destroyed. The only dps still on her would then just be really dumb (but of course changing it at this point would leave tons of dps still attacking her and not realizing).

[raela]

Honestly IDK why the entire alliance doesn't just ignore the second small clouds completely and keep killing the boss. The damage of 24 people over the full cloud phase and using tank lb is way way way higher than the damage of 3x melee lb. It takes me less than 15 seconds to break through the stoneskin solo as monk, after that it's free damage.

I have seen wipes both on her and the dragon from DPS going "it's not much left, LB3 and ignore all the mechanics!!" Wiping at 3% hurts. I'd much rather people hang on to that LB until that last cloud phase is cleared on the off chance that tank or healer LB is needed.

[Meya]

I find it easier to just deal with clouds if she gets none thenthe damage is not really an issue. Can beat on her afterwards.

[HeavensSword]

Used it several times to save my group.

Also used it several times and got little for it, but it was there, she had 4+ stacks, and dead DPS do nothing.

As for the stay on the cloud thing, I feel it's an incredibly stupid suggestion. No, I do understand how it works, but all I ever see is people thinking everyone else but them will deal with the mechanics. Meaning NO ONE is dealing with them except me, the other tanks and maybe a brave healer or two. If you go in preformed, sure, but I would never risk it with the DF.

When I DPS on CoD this is my personal rule of thumb:

When the cloud phase begins I make sure that my DoTs are up on her before I move to the clouds. If DPS is good and I find that the clouds tend to either die before I can get to them or I really can only get like 1-2 hits on them before they die, I move back to the boss.

[Raeletta]

When I DPS on CoD this is my personal rule of thumb:

When the cloud phase begins I make sure that my DoTs are up on her before I move to the clouds. If DPS is good and I find that the clouds tend to either die before I can get to them or I really can only get like 1-2 hits on them before they die, I move back to the boss.

Were we in WoD at this moment, I could be relatively sure a total of 4 people will deal with mechanics. Woo! Now persuade the other 20 people not to be dumb :/

[HeavensSword]

Were we in WoD at this moment, I could be relatively sure a total of 4 people will deal with mechanics. Woo! Now persuade the other 20 people not to be dumb :/

Yea, that's the nature of pugs. Last night I was doing the ultros fight and had half the party say it was their first time or that they didn't remember the fight. Right as I begin my explanation of what DPS needs to do in the imp phase, the tank pulls. Sure enough we all get sneezed off the platform because of lack of stacks. It's hard to fix stupid sometimes. I don't blame the new people, but the genius tank who figured that it's better to go fast instead of worry about mechanics.

[DragonFlyy]

Let's see here:

Option 1: Tank LB, save raid, takes a slight bit longer to complete the fight,
or
Option 2: Save LB, everyone dies and have to start over.

Tough choice there, I vote for getting the hell out of that fight. Go Tank LB!!

[Viridiana]

Or All DPS on clouds/meteors because I'm tired of carrying lazy DPSs. Do some work! Never meant a game where I can never trust DPSs but once in a blue moon, getting that team that just rekts everything.

I'm not being lazy by attacking her. As I've explained in other threads, I monitor the situation. If no clouds are getting through, it's safe for me to attack her. If a cloud gets through, I stop attacking her and help. If you don't need everyone on clouds, you shouldn't put everyone on clouds. If the people handling clouds are incompetent, you help the people doing clouds.

And as I said, you should only even have a few DPS stay on boss. The majority, in my experience, should be doing clouds. No more than two or three on boss.

Tough choice there, I vote for getting the hell out of that fight. Go Tank LB!!

Option 3: DPS do their job, everyone goes home sooner.

[Lyrinn]

Honestly IDK why the entire alliance doesn't just ignore the second small clouds completely and keep killing the boss. The damage of 24 people over the full cloud phase and using tank lb is way way way higher than the damage of 3x melee lb.

Burn doesn't work when the average DPS is hitting for 150.