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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    So what are you saying, you'd rather just wipe than potentially win? Can you explain that sort of logic to the class?
    If the DPS didn't suck, you wouldn't be in the situation of needing tank LB to not wipe. I'd rather the bad DPS improve to be decent DPS so that the DPS can use the DPS LB and everyone can be happy. Without dying. Because you shouldn't be in a situation where using the tank LB as anything other than a joke makes sense.
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    It must be nice living in a perfect world where nothing ever goes wrong.

    A successful melee LB3 accounts for maybe 5 seconds or so of damage from the entire alliance. It's really quite silly to get worked up over.
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    Last edited by Fynlar; 04-09-2015 at 10:24 AM.

  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    It must be nice living in a perfect world where nothing ever goes wrong.
    A few clouds getting through is "something went wrong." It's also not enough to need a tank LB. So many clouds getting through that you need the tank LB is not "something went wrong," it's "no, seriously, wtf just happened?"
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  4. #54
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    A few clouds getting through is "something went wrong." It's also not enough to need a tank LB. So many clouds getting through that you need the tank LB is not "something went wrong," it's "no, seriously, wtf just happened?"
    And if you can salvage the situation with a tank LB, why not do it?
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    I don't see anything wrong with tank LB3 and zerging the boss for the last Cloud set as a strategy, but I don't think I'd trust anyone in DF with that much responsibility. The main reason I've seen people wipe in every CT is that they ignore the mechanics.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    And if you can salvage the situation with a tank LB, why not do it?
    Have I said not to? As far as I can tell, I've only said that you shouldn't be in that situation. If you're in the situation, obviously try to make the best of it, buy why would you be in that situation?
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    Gralya Arodica
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Have I said not to? As far as I can tell, I've only said that you shouldn't be in that situation. If you're in the situation, obviously try to make the best of it, buy why would you be in that situation?
    Because we don't live in a perfect world where everyone does what they're suppose to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Have I said not to? As far as I can tell, I've only said that you shouldn't be in that situation.
    You said it in your very first response and you've implied it in others.

    If you're in the situation, obviously try to make the best of it, buy why would you be in that situation?
    Because as others have mentioned, shit happens. And it isn't always the fault of low DPS. It doesn't really matter why you might need to use the tank LB if using it can secure a win. If you wipe anyway, then worry about the cause.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    And it isn't always the fault of low DPS. It doesn't really matter why you might need to use the tank LB if using it can secure a win. If you wipe anyway, then worry about the cause.
    How is not killing the clouds in time not the fault of low DPS? Either the DPS are all alive and atrociously bad, or they're dead because they and/or the healers messed up. The second is more understandable, but still shouldn't be happening. If none of the DPS died and you still had to tank LB to save the raid from clouds, then most or all of those DPS players need to just start over from square one.
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