White mage remain gimp because the can go scholar on real content?

[DarkmoonVael]

The reason healers go for scholar more then white mage is because of the power curve. Can provide much needed dps while providing constant healing with more forgiving abilities like Lustrate. Lustrate blows anything the white healer can bring to the table right now when white mages should be the strong healer. Scholar cannot take it all..

If I have the people who took my survey back me up would that make me more right some how?

In the content being referred to here, the WHM will provide significantly more dps whilst being able to solo heal the entire party. The ability to use medica 2, regen the tank then dps in dungeons and Crystal Tower raids far outweighs a SCH being used for this content. Doing this does require a high level of skill and attentivness on he part of WHM.

Lustrate actually doesnt blow anything the whm brings out of the water. In raids, you do not get the luxury of using aetherflow on lustrate whenever you feel like it. The abilities those 3 stacks have to use used on over the next minute has to be planned, and does include having to use it on sacred soil and energy drain. So again, you are arguing from magic christmas land with sch and lustarte, rather than using the argument in reality. Regen and medica 2 are phenomenally powerful abilities in their own right, and a WHM who actually has the skill to use benediction properly can work miracles. Also, WHM stoneskin is actually needed to be used during raids when pushing progression.

As for how both healers DPS, the WHM is the strongest in terms of aoe and burst damage. This means in the content you keep referring to, its actually the preferred healer to dps. In dungeons, the mobs have low hp and die quickly to holy spam. The low HP also means that the sch does not get a chance to do amazing dps on them due to the nature of their dot based dps, it takes time to do any significant damage to enemies. In Crystal Tower, the whm will deal more damage to the trash mobs with holy than the sch does with their dots. Once again this is down to how fast the mobs die and how long it takes sch dps to get going. SCH is also severely hampered in the same way SMN is with bane having a finite amount of targets that it hits. With bosses in the content you are talking about, both healers, when played to the same skill level, should push out the same dps whilst keeping the party healthy.

And now, you really need to address some of the spurious claims you have made and ignored the replies to:

Please show how the SCH heals for the same amount as WHM does in raids, making WHM redundant

Please show how the SCH out DPS' the WHM in all content

Please show how significantly more people play SCH over WHM in "relevant" content.


Can you please offer some relevant data/experience to these claims, in stead of all this doomsaying?

Well, it's a "bit" old (August 2014, apparently), but White Mages did outnumber Scholars at that point. Who knows what it looks like 9 months later. Damn though, Scholar numbers exploded over a year!

Yeah back in 2.0 the scholar was very janky to play with a pet that really had fallen down the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down, and was also very misunderstood in terms of mitigation/preventative healer. The changes made to scholar since then certainly have helped make the SCH population healthier. Also, iirc correctly, there were slides of how many people levelled arcanist as well as how many people played summoners. The data that could be extracted was that a significantly high portion of the people who levelled arcanist used it for summoner......but then again, how times have changed for that one as well .