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    Nyalia's Avatar
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizhard View Post
    Expect it is very possible, it just requires semi-competent dps from all groups.
    Really? You've killed him before he spits the second Digestive Juices? Wow, the lowest I've seen him there was 20%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Really? You've killed him before he spits the second Digestive Juices? Wow, the lowest I've seen him there was 20%.
    I've seen it happen once so it is doable. Mainly it requires DPS to not being getting hit by stupid crap (Hound out of Hell, the lightning things, etc) which frees up 5 of the healers to help DPS.

    Only had one raid group like this though (literally blitzed all the fights). For 99% of the parties going through WoD it's still wipe after wipe to simple mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    I've seen it happen once so it is doable. Mainly it requires DPS to not being getting hit by stupid crap (Hound out of Hell, the lightning things, etc) which frees up 5 of the healers to help DPS.

    Only had one raid group like this though (literally blitzed all the fights). For 99% of the parties going through WoD it's still wipe after wipe to simple mechanics.
    Good to know, thank you. I didn't think it was possible with current gear since I've never seen him anywhere near 0 by that point. Still, I stand by my position above - if you don't want to wipe in WoD, don't let any one person's mistake wipe the raid. Double up on MTs in the ahriman boss, double up on people in the slime puddles against the second boss (who is literally a five headed dragon), double up on OTs for Wolfsbanes during Cerberus, double up on people in meteors against Cloud of Darkness, send all DPS in for Cerberus, and don't wait on chains.

    Even if you can down cerby before the second Gastric Juices by holding onto the chains a bit longer, is a few seconds guaranteed of extra combat really worse than a potential wipe?

    Don't put yourself in a position where one person screwing up wipes the raid and then blame that one person. It's your fault too if you could have saved the raid via redundancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Good to know, thank you. I didn't think it was possible with current gear since I've never seen him anywhere near 0 by that point. Still, I stand by my position above - if you don't want to wipe in WoD, don't let any one person's mistake wipe the raid. Double up on MTs in the ahriman boss, double up on people in the slime puddles against the second boss (who is literally a five headed dragon), double up on OTs for Wolfsbanes during Cerberus, double up on people in meteors against Cloud of Darkness, send all DPS in for Cerberus, and don't wait on chains.
    Im pretty sure if you preform the full alliance with 3 t13 groups you might be able to kill cerberus without going into his stomach at all.
    That being said the reality of DF is that you, indeed, would be better off just chaining him straight away.
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