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  1. #1
    Player
    Nyalia's Avatar
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie View Post
    The OT's will do basically nothing if you are lucky one might try pulling adds on Cerberus. With no OT around for the Dragonfly a person will just stand still dying XD. Still the funniest thing on that boss is that some people still have not figured out what to do with the purple and orange marks. You just see them get marked then they run in circles and on the purple one they are being chased by 3-4 people trying to save them lol.
    Whenever I OT, I position myself to get the dragonflies right off, and have CDs ready. I pop one just before the first hit, and.... just before it goes off, a DPS runs in, grabs the tether from me, runs around in circles and dies. I just... I have no words sometimes. This isn't an isolated incident, it happens nearly every freaking time x_x I've stopped bothering to Cover them when they do this, because if I do, they run over and pass it on.

    Once when I Covered someone with a purple marker, they sprinted away from me and got out of Cover range before the hit fell and one-shotted them. I just... Yeah.

    The problem isn't just the OTs, though I'll agree that most tanks just queue so they can be bad DPS, especially on Aether. I wrote a post about this, and the responses from tanks speak for themselves:

    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    how 2 OT WoD:

    - ignore everything except wolfsbane and ahriman
    - dps everything else

    that's it that's all you do
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    Velox's Avatar
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    My run this past week gifted me with a NIN who bitched at me and the other healer for not helping to DPS at all. I simply responded, "I gladly would if you stopped getting hit by every single attack." The vote-kick window popped up (I assumed the other healer did it at the time) and then he was gone.

    I'm glad I got my drop that run. Having to do WoD more than once a week is starting to feel more and more like a chore for gear.
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    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    I'm glad I got my drop that run. Having to do WoD more than once a week is starting to feel more and more like a chore for gear.
    I hear ya, I run it for the weekly to shore up my alts(BLK) right side from the 110s, but my main(WAR) out gears this stuff anyway(even my 110STR crafted dps set is better now) so I'm just waiting till the item restrictions are lifted before I worry about getting the sets for glams.
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    I'm glad I got my drop that run. Having to do WoD more than once a week is starting to feel more and more like a chore for gear.
    Just doing it for the Twine feels like a chore. I hate feeling like an elitist fellow, but that raid brings out the absolute worst in me. Especially when I see 7-11 people getting KO'd by Level 150 Death (this just... it makes me facepalm so hard I find myself with the 30 minute penalty). I get people may be new, but... if you see an AoE/tether on you, get out of the circle of death!
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    AireTamStorm's Avatar
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    Cheria Gainsborough
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 60
    When people start pointing fingers I always try to explain to everyone in the raid what do to when we face it again. Usually there's mechanic screw ups and calmly explaining it will help more than anything. Often times it helps diffuse a salt storm that's near critical levels. Sure I can get mad too but getting mad at people is just going to lengthen the time I'm spending in a place I only need to run once for carbon/twine/coat that week.

    WoD's first boss is great though. I love it. The amount of people that mortal/gazed or Brand of the --- is hilarious. Doesn't usually wipe but it's fun to see who is new and who isn't. I've had pretty good experiences running the weekly on Tuesday nights, right after the resets. Weekends are another story....
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by AireTamStorm View Post
    I've had pretty good experiences running the weekly on Tuesday nights, right after the resets. Weekends are another story....
    I envy you. When I mentioned the 7-11 people getting KO'd to Level 150 Death, this was on the day after reset. Some of the people KO'd wore WoD gear...
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    Thea Sitori
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by AireTamStorm View Post
    When people start pointing fingers I always try to explain to everyone in the raid what do to when we face it again. Usually there's mechanic screw ups and calmly explaining it will help more than anything. Often times it helps diffuse a salt storm that's near critical levels. Sure I can get mad too but getting mad at people is just going to lengthen the time I'm spending in a place I only need to run once for carbon/twine/coat that week.

    WoD's first boss is great though. I love it. The amount of people that mortal/gazed or Brand of the --- is hilarious. Doesn't usually wipe but it's fun to see who is new and who isn't. I've had pretty good experiences running the weekly on Tuesday nights, right after the resets. Weekends are another story....
    I'll admit Tuesday resets are not immune to issues, but they are way less. We usually preform on Tuesday nights, but queuing solo on the weekend can be okay or really bad.
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Or the sheer amount of people who don't understand the concept of turning around to avoid Mortal Gaze still. How many times do they need to die from doom for that to sink in? It's the simplest mechanic to avoid. Had a Tank who got hit every single time recently and each time he got doom he ran around trying to wipe it pulling the boss around with him so it's beam hits everyone.
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    Karen_Cerfrumos's Avatar
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    Rera Kando
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    Cerberus
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MXMoondoggie View Post
    Or the sheer amount of people who don't understand the concept of turning around to avoid Mortal Gaze still. How many times do they need to die from doom for that to sink in?
    Not everybody is actually aware that there's target-face mechanics in this game because nothing outright tells you this and only select few enemies even have this sorta thing - Melusine, some eyeball type enemies, Angramainyu and Boogey (actually snakes in Silvertear and possibly Qarn HM also do this). Eventually somebody will notice they dodged it but will they make the correct assumption about how it happened? It seems obvious to not look at something called Mortal Gaze but in reality it's not (the other Doom mechanic in this game doesn't have this property so people might as well go with "so I just chase the lit up panel like in Qarn"). Plus DPS might be too focused on their rotation to notice the castbar, that happens too.
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    Last edited by Karen_Cerfrumos; 03-26-2015 at 06:45 AM.

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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Karen_Cerfrumos View Post
    Not everybody is actually aware that there's target-face mechanics in this game because nothing outright tells you this and only select few enemies even have this sorta thing - Melusine, some eyeball type enemies, Angramainyu and Boogey (actually snakes in Silvertear and possibly Qarn HM also do this). Eventually somebody will notice they dodged it but will they make the correct assumption about how it happened? It seems obvious to not look at something called Mortal Gaze but in reality it's not (the other Doom mechanic in this game doesn't have this property so people might as well go with "so I just chase the lit up panel like in Qarn"). Plus DPS might be too focused on their rotation to notice the castbar, that happens too.
    Which would be fine if the content had not been out for weeks. People have had a long long time to learn these mechanics by now and it's not just one or two people not knowing what to do because they are new it's people who have obviously been farming it for weeks and they STILL mess up the simplest things.

    The fact everyone else turns around for the attack around them might give them a clue.
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    Last edited by MXMoondoggie; 03-26-2015 at 08:49 AM.

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