Quote Originally Posted by jomoru View Post
There is a distinct impression I get from the setup that early Ishgard was probably founded with the AID of the dragons and that's why Shiva was a Saint then. Even the Dragoon ending talks about returning things to the way they were.
That seems unlikely the story of the creation of Ishgard don't seem to be a lie, Ishgard already looks like to be the bad guys in their own story. The dragons wanting to the returns things to the way they were means to kick the Ishgardians out of Coerthas.