Thread: The 2.5 (Part 1 & 2) speculation thread

Originally Posted by Viridiana

I don't actually remember the quest(s?) where we hear ancient language. Mind saving me the trip through the Journey?

You see it a few times, an Ixal even speaks it in the Grid into. "O Mounful Voice of Creation..." etc. etc. However hearing it?

Let's see... the Echo of the Battle of Cartenau at LV14... The Toto-rak pre-boss cutscene... aaand the post-Praetorium Ascian gathering.

Funny enough, Nabriales speaks the ancient language in that last one, albeit with a completely different voice.

Originally Posted by Viridiana

it would have been Lahabrea or Elidibus talking, neither of whom are "of this world."

I thought they were the only two that were.

Originally Posted by Nabriales

The blessing of light kept you and your fellow meddlers safe. It was that which prevented my kind from entering your domain. My kid, I say, though it held no power over the likes of Elidibus and Lahabrea. Being of this world, they could come and go as they please, while I could only look on... But no longer. Now that the seal is gone, I mean to act.

Weird that he referred to it as the seal, too. Methinks I haven't fully comprehended his meaning.

Originally Posted by Sapphic

One thing I would like to know is how old are teh Ascians? From where are their origins? Prior to the fall of Allag or tied to it?

The impression I get is that they far predate the Allag. They seem to recall the time of "balance" when Zodiark, if not Hydaelyn as well, was present. I'm assuming they originally existed along side the gods in Eorzea (before the 1st Umbral) and developed their power of the echo, individually or collectively, as such to allow them to transcend death when the time came.

However, they could have been Allagan forebears.

Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

I wouldn't be surprised if the cause of every Umbral era could be traced to an Ascian.

At the very least they openly take credit for as much a few times in the game's dialogue.

Originally Posted by Chewy2nd

I wouldn't be surprised if the cause of every Umbral era could be traced to an Ascian.

I would not be surprised if the rise of all great nations and Astral Eras were fostered by the Ascians only to bring about an Umbral Era and start the cycle anew.