Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[SunnyHirose]

That sounds like the same raid doing different things. That's not the same as different raids doing different things

I should probably add an additional hedge to my statement; of course overall raid EncDPS between two different raids is relevant when you want to talk speedruns.

But putting it another way: people almost always use EncDPS as a measure of individual performance without listing much about confounding factors if anything (though Luc at least has been showing screenshots with a few "mechanics handled" notes and which weapons people are using).

Like, mine didn't look so hot in T8 at first (when SCoB was current). Then when I tried out for my current FC, it shot way up because (1) OMG a bard that sings enough Paeon, and (2) it was my first time doing clears that weren't barely squeaking in under enrage. Same ilvl, same target dummy fight, about 17% better results. Even then, it's not exactly a great measure for dragoons, because in ideal conditions we spend 1/4 of the time under BfB (winning) and 3/4 not under BfB (not winning).

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Getting back to making this thread about boring BiS discussion, my measurements of actual damage make it seem that the Black Truffle BiS (411 determination, base skill speed) is a better pure-i130 T13 flank set than any with accuracy food. This isn't conclusive (and at the rate I've been testing things, likely will remain a tentative suggestion), but as FCoB is going free farm soon, I figured it's important to share.

Linearly regressed estimate of average non-crit damage per 100 potency at 58 WD 664 STR:
0.1196907465 × DET + 194.5728138
Linearly regressed estimate of average non-crit damage per autoattack with Dreadwyrm Spear (2.88s delay):
0.2306399028 × DET + 159.8923238
Linearly regressed estimate of average non-crit damage per 100 potency at 58 WD 634 STR:
0.1155303218 × DET + 186.7850665
Linearly regressed estimate of average non-crit damage per autoattack with Dreadwyrm Spear (2.88s delay):
0.2131865847 × DET + 156.5591748

(9 data points at 664 STR, 3 data points at 634 STR)

[enil]

Like, mine didn't look so hot in T8 at first (when SCoB was current). Then when I tried out for my current FC, it shot way up because (1) OMG a bard that sings enough Paeon, and (2) it was my first time doing clears that weren't barely squeaking in under enrage. Same ilvl, same target dummy fight, about 17% better results. Even then, it's not exactly a great measure for dragoons, because in ideal conditions we spend 1/4 of the time under BfB (winning) and 3/4 not under BfB (not winning).)

Well - if I saw numbers 17% higher than mine with the same gear/same fight, I'd ask what are they doing differently that's making such a big difference? Oh you guys don't run out of TP? I'll ask my BRD to sing more Paeon since it benefits raid dps etc. Like you said, encDPS isn't a measure of skill, it's just a number - maybe you didn't improve skill-wise at all but your raid's strategy improved.