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    Aeyis's Avatar
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Thrustie View Post
    I can say quite assuredly that generally the ones who give me the most pain are nothing like me. The ones who are the worst are the ones who have 4 retainers full of goods from every market and literally have undercut my undercut 5 minutes after. They have every 4 star gear piece posted on the MB in every craft and the second they sell one, they have another posted.

    Crafters like me check the MB once or twice a day to undercut and put up a few goods when there's low supply here and there.
    See that is what I disagree with. Your post is nothing but a generalization. Right now crafters either specialise in markets or do a little bit of everything. The first group is the one giving you trouble. And as you mentioned being a specialist yourself, that group includes you.

    The difference between the other specialists and you is not ''level of specialization'', it simply the amount of time they put into it.
    You cant compete with them because they simply have more time to spend.
    Not because they ''have 4 retainers with goods from every market''
    Do you know why people will have certain goods stocked up in extremely large numbers?
    Because they specialise in that market.
    I don't believe there is a single person that has ''every 4 star equipment posted on the mb'' either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrustie View Post
    the second they sell one, they have another posted.
    [Example]
    I am doing that right now with nuggets. Not because I'm some nefarious trade baron that controls the servers board.
    But because I happened to accumulate about a dozen stacks of gold ore (partially due to TT time windows).
    This effectively makes rose gold nugget a market I specialise in.

    However, since I can make gil in any number of markets, I won't always even have nuggets on the board.
    This would change if the system forced me to specialise, and gold nuggets was something I would take to specialise in.
    Since I'm now unable to change markets at will, I have no choice but to focus on this market.
    Result: I become a permanent presence on the market, one capable of farming a good deal of materials on daily basis.
    I would likely produce 2 more alts, trippling my production.
    -> casual crafter/gatherers that also chose this as their specialization would fail to make gil, because I would always be there to undercut them.

    --> another hardcore crafter produces similar amounts as I do, with the same time available for undercutting.
    Result: the market crashes, the item devalues greatly.
    [/Example]
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    Last edited by Aeyis; 03-19-2015 at 09:16 AM.

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    Beck Eldrin
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    Adamantoise
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
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    Honestly I'm not generalizing. I wish I was. Maybe it's unique to my server but we literally have a few crafters that have one piece listed for every single 4 star gear piece in LTW, WVR, ARM, BSM and CRP. They do a LOT of everything. And my market is 4 star gear pieces so I don't carry a large stock since the sales are often days apart. I elected to go for big infrequent sales rather than volume quick sales. Mostly because I'm lazy and don't have a batch macro.

    I get your point. I didn't realize many people dabbled in everything like that. Maybe I'm already more specialized than your average crafter. I see how that could be a detriment to your market preferences.
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    Last edited by Thrustie; 03-19-2015 at 11:49 AM.