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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkDedede View Post
    Don't worry about that. I've worked retail long enough to know exactly the kind of person that you are referring to.

    However, I'm not so complacent as to give in to tacit consent. I'm not going to act as if they are doing us a favor by making us this game. That variety of self serving hubris was the downfall of the team of the first generation of this game. I'd rather not see that happen again. I also don't believe that all feedback needs to be in the form of a lengthy dissertation. I'd rather spend my time playing the parts of the game that I do enjoy.

    Sure, I'd be interested in other parts, once I find the incentive. Until then, yes, "it's not for me." Where the issue lies is if one of their design choices end up being "not" for enough of their intended audience. If something they've developed doesn't benefit enough people to justify the invested resources, then they need to modify and improve it until more people can actually enjoy it. I'm sure they have their methods to gather metrics so they don't need their players to draw them a detailed schematic of where and how to fix the issue. They're the designers. They are the ones that need to come up the solution. All we can legally do is point out issues and possibly give suggestions. Anything past that opens up an entirely different batch of issues.

    In any case, I'm sure they're keep making improvements so that the GS appeals to a broader audience. Until then, we can point out the issues in the hopes that others agree with us (in some form or fashion), and have some lengthy discussions along the way (always a fun time).
    Yes, I agree with the things you've stated here. Namely the part about a given situation where content is not performing as well as intended. In those cases, yeah, they really should look to remedy it. The Gold Saucer is, I'm 99% certain, not one of those cases. Everything about the place is "for fun", aka optional, assuming what it is IS fun for you to begin with. Many people actually enjoy TT. Many actually enjoy Chocobo Racing. If they don't do it 24/7, it doesn't mean that no one is interested. There's a lot to do in this game, so it's best to spread the love lol. The Gold Saucer is absolutely perfect (well almost perfect) for me in particular, because I miss the old school grind. As I stated in an earlier reply, I don't care about gear, as I've played the gear game for over a decade, so I'm kinda burnt out on it. All this self-achievement stuff in the form of nostalgia, gambling, and games... ooh I LOVE IT! That's just me however.

    I dare say that an overwhelming majority agree with it being a marvelous addition, despite frustrations involving Typhon (LOL!). I can see problems where they are, and I can sympathize with most problems people face (even if they are problems with the player, and not the system/design), but it is what it is right now. Voice concerns, it's just that people need to understand that their views may not be "right" with the developers... nor players, in many cases lol. Not saying you're one of those cases, mind you.

    I still say that people stating opinions that "it's not fun" then bitching about how it's impossible to do something, despite evidence saying otherwise, as being nothing but destructive reactions. Unfortunately, the grand majority of these people with problems involving GS do fall in line with that. They either don't realize that it's possible for things to not be intended for them, don't understand how the genre works, or they just completely ignore legitimate counter arguments about the things they find to be a problem (e.g. prizes costing too much, takes too long to make MGP, etc). If the Gold Saucer not being for them in its current state is enough reason to not enjoy themselves in the game, as small of a part as it is, then they need to do the smart/mature/adult thing and stop torturing themselves with something they hate. They can always come back whenever they want, so it's not like anyone is saying to never play again... which is, for whatever reason, how some people take the idea of being smart about their decisions.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobinRethiel View Post
    Can you explain this sentence? It does not make any sense for itself.
    It just basically means a grind is perspective, which it generally is due to a negative connotation behind the term. If you are doing something you don't enjoy, for whatever odd reason it may be, then you're making it into a grind. If you take a different approach to it, you may enjoy it better (e.g. doing other things and spending minimal time on it when you feel like it), etc etc.
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 03-11-2015 at 11:04 AM.

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