Pro tip: Tell me you're new to a dungeon /rant

[MythToken]

I usually pull a small amount at first to gauge my group's ability, and increase how much I pull based on how well we are doing/if I am dying/If stuff is dying fast enough ect. Sometimes you can just tell by looking at gear, that everyone is expecting a speed run. It is annoying however, to pull a boss and someone have no idea what they are doing, and not say anything beforehand. Like "what does this guy do?" or "first time". While I can understand people not wanting to single themselves out as new. I would much rather take the 20 seconds to explain the boss, so speak up.

Both sides have a point.
1. new players need to speak up (being scared to speak up only makes your problems worse)
2. veterens need to have more patience
I have gotten brand spanking newbies through some tough encounters quite easily, by taking the 20 seconds or so to explain a boss, and to pull the encounter based on my groups skill level.

[Kosmos992k]

new players need to speak up (being scared to speak up only makes your problems worse)

While I agree that it would be better if people did speak up, the trouble is that for players who are naturally shy or quiet, having someone actively pushing them to speak up will often have the opposite effect. That's as true in this game as it is in life. Some people just do not speak up, and when pressed to do so, will clam up even more. Combine that with the possibility of English not being their native language, and you have a recipe for disaster when people presume that quiet players are intentionally refusing to interact.

Patience is a virtue. Patience with friends is always appreciated. But, patience in a group of strangers is priceless.