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  1. #11
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    Purple Rain
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    Quote Originally Posted by dystopiac View Post
    Thing is-why should i not pay the 3 million and just be done with it?
    I have personally never understood anyone who would want to get their win by paying instead of actually beating the fight. As Coil leader I would also never accept a person who has bought their win as a member (and I know this from all our members having gained their wins in our events). You can say the challenge is not being able to perform your role but finding 7 others who are able to perform theirs as well. However, if you're not capable of finding or gathering a capable group and keeping it together long enough to beat this fight, it's not likely you'll have better success in any future content either. There are a lot of players who are still missing this win and are motivated to do it.
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  2. #12
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    Emilia Wintersbite
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    I have personally never understood anyone who would want to get their win by paying instead of actually beating the fight. As Coil leader I would also never accept a person who has bought their win as a member (and I know this from all our members having gained their wins in our events). You can say the challenge is not being able to perform your role but finding 7 others who are able to perform theirs as well. However, if you're not capable of finding or gathering a capable group and keeping it together long enough to beat this fight, it's not likely you'll have better success in any future content either. There are a lot of players who are still missing this win and are motivated to do it.
    So basically you're saying that you would only accept people that have formed and lead raids in your own raid,and that if i am not capable to lead a raid i am not capable to perform the role of a member as well.That's a bit elitist,no?
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    Last edited by dystopiac; 03-06-2015 at 08:52 PM.

  3. #13
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    Erm I suggest you re-read Taika's post, that isn't what he said at all?
    He said he wouldn't accept anyone in his static that only had the clear from buying it, nothing about they had to be a raid leader?
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    Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
    Erm I suggest you re-read Taika's post, that isn't what he said at all?
    He said he wouldn't accept anyone in his static that only had the clear from buying it, nothing about they had to be a raid leader?
    Ok then!As i have said before i have posted a request in my own realm forum looking for a static,in Reddit's recruitment forum looking for a static,and occasionally ask around in the PF and Mor Dhona stat for a static.8 days of searching have yielded NOT A SINGLE RESPONSE.Tell me then how to find a group of like minded people and progress through that fight without becoming a leader and setting up my own static then.I'm waiting.
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    Regardless of how one feels about paying for a clear, it seems like a waste of gil unless you actually have plans to do FCOB after. I imagine that a lot of people who feel unable to clear T9 with their own parties pay to get it out of the way and then find themselves stuck on T10 due to the same issue (no static party).
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by dystopiac View Post
    Ok then!As i have said before i have posted a request in my own realm forum looking for a static,in Reddit's recruitment forum looking for a static,and occasionally ask around in the PF and Mor Dhona stat for a static.8 days of searching have yielded NOT A SINGLE RESPONSE.Tell me then how to find a group of like minded people and progress through that fight without becoming a leader and setting up my own static then.I'm waiting.
    It does seem a tricky situation. If you haven't yet, I would suggest you look more into the FCs on your server (it's supposed to be the biggest EU server isn't it, surely there are many kinds of FCs available?) and maybe even widen your search into other servers. If you are interested in raiding, it's best to find a community that supports that.
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    Actually you're right, I very much doubt you will find a static. Buy your clear
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  8. #18
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    Zalera
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    Turn 9 is about the level where playing with randoms makes it very hard to progress. The mechanics are a bit tighter than others, and it requires alot of coordination.

    You don't NEED a static, but at the very least you need people from your server that you know are at a specific level to progress and carry others.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    Turn 9 is about the level where playing with randoms makes it very hard to progress. The mechanics are a bit tighter than others, and it requires alot of coordination.

    You don't NEED a static, but at the very least you need people from your server that you know are at a specific level to progress and carry others.
    Finding people who will manage the Fire and Thunder correctly seems like the biggest hurdle for those needing to clear who lack their own static group. It's probably the easiest mechanic to wipe your entire party with short of dropping meteors incorrectly in the first two phases.

    Oh, and Divebomb placement. Almost forgot about that one lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dystopiac View Post
    Thing is-why should i not pay the 3 million and just be done with it?Then i won't have the magical "100 sold tag of shame"over my head each time i go in the dungeon and be able to join actual groups of skilled people that farm the content and proving my worth there.
    Why would you? What's the point of progressing if you're just going to get carried? It's an MMO, is the destination really more important than the journey?

    I don't understand people who buy their way out of raid content. I mean...it's not like you're buying your way into easier territory, you're going to run into the exact same issue with no circle of players to help you tackle the new content.
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