Dear All Bards,

[ruskie]

The only time that Foe Requiem shouldn't be played, or should be turned off, is when the tank is still grabbing groups for the pull

Actually a good tank will aggro them all properly while pulling already. Not one and then face pull the rest. Flash or overpower once is enough. Then the following can happen in no real order:

a) swiftcast stoneskin as needed
b) eye for eye as needed
c) even a regen can tick for a bit without issue
d) foe can be put up without worry

Problem is soo many tanks don't do that and just run and run until they come to rest.

[RiceisNice]

Actually a good tank will aggro them all properly while pulling already. Not one and then face pull the rest. Flash or overpower once is enough. Then the following can happen in no real order:

a) swiftcast stoneskin as needed
b) eye for eye as needed
c) even a regen can tick for a bit without issue
d) foe can be put up without worry

Problem is soo many tanks don't do that and just run and run until they come to rest.

Foe Rekt has an effective range of 20 yalms, versus a tank's 15 yalm pulling ability. You're right that it shouldnt peel off aggro, as long as it's not the first thing that aggros the mob, the latter being the case if the bard is running with the tank.

Regen will also peel off if it ticks in a manner that it registers to the mob before the tank gets the initial aggro. I feel like they always take at least 2 seconds to change targets after a shift in enmnity, which causes them to lag behind getting caught by overpower, scorn or w/e.

Sorry, I never use Foes for easy stuff. WOD/CT/ST are easy mode. I like to save my Mp for the Healers. FYI: Foe's grabs hate. Most players are OVERGEARED for Pug raids.

Battle Voice + Ballad is more than enough to get healers back up, even if you have as little as 500 mp; it'l last the entire 30 second duration. Foe only grabs hate if you're running with or ahead of the tank (or new adds spawn), otherwise it'll never peel off the tank.