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    To explain a bit for others; with 'The Elemental Theory' we could've either had the pre-duality knowledge from the element itself or the collective knowledge of the aether. However, with Ramuh assumed to be the only one with said knowledge it makes things...difficult.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    Lemme know where you get with that! lol
    Every primal that we've seen created used a host, so a physical body containing aether (aka living [Yes, I would argue that crystals and Zantetsuken are alive]) is needed. From what we've seen of Shiva and what we know of the Ascian's plan, the Echo may be necessary to 'convert' a person into a primal (whether or not Louisoux had the echo remains to be seen and could even be irrelevant due to his knowledge and Tupsimati's power).

    Now, if Ramuh gained his knowledge first-hand and didn't commune with Hydaelyn or something of the sort, that means he pre-dates man. One could argue that he's an Elder Primal based on this, but we know that "Elder" is reserved for Primals that have been worshiped for-nearly-ever, not merely existing.

    What humanoid beings (because Ramuh is humanoid) could have existed before light and dark were "given form"? Well, what were the Ascians (the two from our world at least) before they transcended death? Don't they too remember that "no such duality" once existed?


    I got nothin'! I'm throwing my hands up...and I'm walking away. ...for now at least.
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