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    DoctaruRavenbe's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Interesting, now we have 3 instances of Garuda not always being twisted in the past.
    1st: the myth that eating the flesh of the Lord of Snakes made her crazy
    2nd: The lyrics of Garuda's theme is "Falling too far from the light.Deeper into the night. Lost here inside my own hell I am a broken angel"
    3rd: Her TT description

    I almost feel sorry for her; maybe a part of her "nicer" self is still inside her, but her eating the Snake Lord poisened her mind. She *does* have a penchant for consuming other's aether
    well also consider she is the only primal to produce to named facets of her self in her fight. Titan in extreme and Ramuh do have lesser facets appear but they are merely titled roles (Gaolers and Arbiters).
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    Okay then. that's what I'll do. I'll tell you a story. Can you hear them? All these people who lived in terror of you and your judgement. All these people who's ancestors devoted themselves to you, sacrificed themselves to you. Can you hear them singing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    She *does* have a penchant for consuming other's aether
    Could it be that she's gained personality traits from each, uh, thing she's consumed? I mean, no other primal that we know of eats other primals (unless you count Ultima) and a primal's aether probably holds a bit of self after dispersing, let alone still within its body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treuhavik View Post
    Could it be that she's gained personality traits from each, uh, thing she's consumed?
    If that were the case, it's no wonder she'd gone insane...unless the things she consumed were the ones that were insane to begin with, I dunno *shrugs*.
    In any case, yeah...I *almost* feel sorry for her, if she weren't such an homicidal maniac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
    I *almost* feel sorry for her, if she weren't such an homicidal maniac.
    She's just a schizophrenic - holy $!*% I just spelled that right on the first try! Ahem... Yes, I imagine several powerful beings competing in your head for control of a single body might drive one to insanity. That's a pretty far-out-there theory though.

    I'm pretty sure the card's description simply means that she's power-trippin', to an insane degree. Given her dialogue, she's pretty confident that wind is THE most powerful element and it's wielder should rule everything ever, at least until her head is taken by the jaws of Ultima.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garuda
    Did you truly believe you could defy a god, landwalkers!? My power is limitless! My children legion! And they have rendered unto me a wealth of crystals. Their gifts sustain me, their faith empowers me! None save my children will escape the reckoning, mortals! And those who would use my crystals to waken the rest shall realize the folly of their faith! Then all shall worship none but me! The one true god! HEE HEE HEE HEE HEEEEEE!!!

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    Soon, the worms of the forest shall receive my judgment! The desert vermin next─their walls of stone will not shield them from the tempest! And then will I take vengeance on the sea lice! Their wooden boats cannot outrun the wind!
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    Quote Originally Posted by treuhavik View Post
    She's just a schizophrenic - holy $!*% I just spelled that right on the first try! Ahem... Yes, I imagine several powerful beings competing in your head for control of a single body might drive one to insanity. That's a pretty far-out-there theory though.

    I'm pretty sure the card's description simply means that she's power-trippin', to an insane degree. Given her dialogue, she's pretty confident that wind is THE most powerful element and it's wielder should rule everything ever, at least until her head is taken by the jaws of Ultima.
    Wind blows out flames.
    Wind erodes rock and blows sand.
    Wind blows water to create waves; wind blows rain to create hurricanes; "air" evaporates water.
    Wind blows clouds to direct lightning storms.
    Wind blows snow; cold wind chills water to make it ice.

    Yep.
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    Yeah it could be her extreme nature is a result of something else, but from her dialogue alone, she just seemed like a batshit insane narcissist. The ability to summon and sustain impenetrable stormwinds would likely just amplify that.

    Which is pretty interesting. Ifrit is certainly the most terrifying primal in the game to me, off visuals alone. But were it a real life situation, i'd honestly rather face him than Garuda. I think the only primal shown with more practical power has been Ramuh, who would just be impossible to approach or avoid.
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    This is a clip of when Garuda 1st awakened and wreaked havoc on a Gridanian hamlet...it certainly gives "Now Fall" in her lyrics a new meaning. Truly a frightening Primal in both 1.0 and 2.0

    http://youtu.be/ro-hKCAQ-OM

    We know from the SMN quest that an egi (a manifestation of a primal's left-over aether) retains the "personality" of the primal before subduing it. so it is highly possible that the Lord of Snake's traits end affecting her in the end; especially since it was a VERY powerful opponent
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    Ah, I also forgot to mention that Shiva's card thoroughly destroyed another theory I was working on - a theory in which Shiva was a vessel for Halone and was responsible for bringing Thordan's posse to Ishgard.

    It's definitely a love/hate relationship between myself and triple triad.

    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    clip of Garuda
    What's more interesting, to me at least, from that video, Nael confirms yet again that "Gods" (The Twelve) are an actual thing and that they're very much alive...even if they may as well be dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treuhavik View Post
    What's more interesting, to me at least, from that video, Nael confirms yet again that "Gods" (The Twelve) are an actual thing and that they're very much alive...even if they may as well be dead.
    Yeah they're an actual thing, the whole thing with Bahamut and Midgardsormr seem to reference their existence directly.
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    I remember a part of the Main Scenario where the Ascians taught young Ala Magan's a method of summoning one of the Twelve, Rhalgr I think, in the same way as you summon a primal. Of course those youths were very unlikely to succeed but it raised the question for me as to weather they would summon the actual Rhalgr or merely a primal shaped as the image of their worship.
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