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    Neptune Deepsea
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TirionCrey View Post
    I said it on page 1 already but my post got deleted...Neptune is trying to get EVERY possible way of getting his MP costs being reduced at least tried out.

    He gives a *** about meeles and them being excluded from the R50 dnugeon, he just uses them as another "argument" for his MP cost to be reduced, which he tried like over nine thousand times already.
    Why assume everyone is so selfish? Why would you assume I don't care about other players getting excluded? What is going on right now is ridiculous. I log on, my group farms Batraal, and we practically throw away axes that drop since nobody has Marauder up. It's completely unfair for 4/5ths of melee to be so looked down upon. I've been looked down on in FFXI for trying to do my thing so I know what it feels like to have the community turn against you.. because of the initiative of the battle planner.

    Quote Originally Posted by KitCat View Post
    im sorry but it's the community's fault melee aren't invited. people are typically cowards and opportunists who'd rather take the easy road.
    it's partially the community's fault but that's not the whole story. look upstream.


    Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post

    As for melee range to suck it up, the patch 1.18a notes just blew Neptune's mis-translation out of the water. Neptune, I know you're hurt over the new patch, but you're close to hysterical; you're overthinking. Calm yourself; take a break if you need to, and come back to the game and forums with a fresh mind. It can be hard to adapt, and I don't blame you for that; we're only human. As far as I can see, Matsui never failed or told us to suck it up, no matter how you interpret it, or, importantly, the rest of the community views it.

    So Neptune, go do some meditation, yoga, or something to relax yourself. Even R-rated stuff that help you unwind, do it. Then, when you feel fully refreshed, come back with an open mind. I liked the you that had new and good ideas for how the game should proceed, but recently, you've turned to grumbling. Please, Neptune, turn back. What's done is done; SE can reach a compromise, but if you continue acting as you are, most likely, they'll turn a blind eye. Perhaps sit back and make a list of new stuff you want this game to have, innovative things that can help foster better content or community appeal. You have it in you, I'm sure, and to spend all that potential on topics such as these is such a waste.

    Take a break, from the forums and the game. You'll feel better for it, and return to us with a brighter attitude and mind to blow us out with your usual standard of topics and posts.
    Thanks for this post. I genuinely appreciate your remarks.

    I summed up the translation by Reinheart in the headline with the actual translation in the OP and the English official translation came not far behind it. Anyway, all it says in the patch notes is what Matsui said he was going to do.. buff melees - which I already pointed out is an inadequate response. I mean it's great that they got buffs but a buff can't change this situation because it's nested too far down in the hierarchy of causes for this issue. It will only lead to more successful runs of groups that were willing to take melee in the first place, and the GLA/CON/ARC groups will keep right on trucking. That's the whole reason I made this thread, to get a response from Matsui that is actually going to change things for the better.

    I feel you though.. the forums have been getting on my nerves, but I'm really not as cynical as I may appear to be. I still have a lot of good ideas and things I'd like to post about, but did you notice the string of "busy, we'll look into it" responses? I'm focusing on posting about things that they are busy working on - not things they're too busy to work on. That's what these forums are for after all. I don't believe grumbling is a good way to look at the threads I've posted. What the dev team wants to know is how people feel about changes, anger, frustration, surprise, disappointment included. Negative emotions are still valuable feedback. A complete patch can avoid negativity by being well designed. I appreciate you being so constructive, but I really don't think this is a great time for me to be posting imaginative suggestions when they are so focused on practical matters. There are a lot of active dev tags about issues that could really make or break this game right now. You'll see my apparent attitude change after that, if I'm still playing.

    Try to take a look at this thread as something more than complaining - it's about human behavior and how online games are evolving as the relationship between dev team and players becomes clearer - distilled into an opinion about one single issue negatively affecting other players.
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    Last edited by Neptune; 08-07-2011 at 05:57 PM.