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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Stop taking this sort of thing so seriously. You have plenty of other games to play if challenges is what you seek.
    You have plenty of other games to play if zero difficulty is what you seek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    You have plenty of other games to play if zero difficulty is what you seek.
    Big difference this game caters to those opposed to the OP's views more so than those who agree with it. Always has and always will. So it is not those opposed to it which are not in alignment with the design ethos of this game, the game is catered to them more than the hardcore...that's how it has always been and will be in future.

    That is not to say SE does not give the hardcore something to chew on in every content patch but the majority of content and how they handle old hardcore content will be the same as currently the case. How it works now and how it will always work is old hardcore made easier, small amount of new hardcore content to replace small amount of old hardcore content in each major content patch plus more casual content than hardcore in ratio per patch or expansion.
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    Same could be said for you and your tastes, so we're at an impasse
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    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    Ok, I'll bite. We will stop asking for it to be easier if people stop asking to make it "harder".

    (Quotation marks used to denote that no one can agree on what harder means. Grind = Hard? Mechanics = Hard? Open world dungeons = hard? Open world threat = hard? etc)
    I don't know that the game needs to be any harder than it is, but the reality is that making it easier will never make it "easy enough". Second Coil got nerfed into the ground, and people still fail it like nobody's business. Ramuh EX is ridiculously easy, same with Ifrit EX, and they may be the most commonly failed EX fights outside of Titan EX. The only way to make it easy enough to where people wouldn't complain about it being "too hard" would be if everything was tank and spank and hit as hard as a B rank, making the game literally a glorified chat room. I'm pretty sure there are already games out there that serve that purpose...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Big difference this game caters to those opposed to the OP's views more so than those who agree with it. Always has and always will.
    You've clearly never done any trials or coil or pretty much anything outside of super basic dungeons then, because it's crystal clear that SE tries to cater equally to the ultra hardcore and the super casual, because there's no way on earth people who think the game is too hard is beating pretty much anything current without some heavy lifting from the rest of the party. People STILL can't beat Ramuh EX in DF more often than not.

    Certainly, Savage Coil was designed to cater to people who want the game to be easy, right?
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    The whole thing is just oozing nonsense from that "story mode coil" thread instead of staying in that thread. The game is nearly two years old now, plenty of time to see what kind of game it is and I don't see it changing anytime soon. Hard games are almost a niche market at this point, along with the people who enjoy such games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    You've clearly never done any trials or coil or pretty much anything outside of super basic dungeons then, because it's crystal clear that SE tries to cater equally to the ultra hardcore and the super casual, because there's no way on earth people who think the game is too hard is beating pretty much anything current without some heavy lifting from the rest of the party. People STILL can't beat Ramuh EX in DF more often than not.

    Certainly, Savage Coil was designed to cater to people who want the game to be easy, right?
    Coils and EX trials are the only real hardcore content. All of which is made more casual friendly over time. If you think coils and EX trials make up the majority of the game then you have not been playing the same game and you have not been paying attention to what they have been doing with such content making easier and easier as time goes on as that content becomes old content.
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    I play to have fun, I pay for the same content that you do yet because I don't think like you do I have yet to even enter it. So tell me why I shouldnt request at least a story mode version of all this challenging content you seem to crave? it's no too much to ask for an easy experience with NO LOOT just so we can see what we pay for?
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    I ask people to stop whineing and start playing to get better, instead of asking SE to dumb the game down on their lazy level.

    It's not about coils or EX modes, it's about people who can't even find all the detonators in Rogue quest and keep whineing that the game is too hard... and there's soo much more examples. When some people are lazy or too dumb to actually play this game and instead of putting more effort in it (no, not getting better gear, but listen and learn mechanics etc.) they whine to SE to dumb the game down to their level!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Stop taking this sort of thing so seriously. You have plenty of other games to play if challenges is what you seek.
    Please stop taking his post so seriously, plenty of other games 'you' could play if face roll easy is what you seek. See, kind of works both ways.
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