Please stop asking SE to make FFXIV more easy!

[ThanMazus]

whineing...payed...I won't let whiney kids or lazy adults make SE nerf it down...I'm not perfect eighter...I havent beated every content...

I just want to protect FFXIV from halfwits

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[Vaara]

OP's concern is valid, yet formed rather aggressively. There are countless of nerf/remove bottleneck threads on the forums, even if the content is already nerfed heavily with echo+gear+mechanics (T5/scob/extremes). If enough people want it, they will have it.

I think the major grudge for many in this game was that Coils offered heavy story content, so they're actually introducing an nm version of Alexander in HW. This may mean that Hard Mode will be purely for hardcores and no reason to nerf it at all.

And by the way, this game needs more bottlenecks imo to keep people on content of their skill level.

The thing is these bottlenecks keep good players from advancing. I could probably do T9 in my sleep now but I can't get through it because finding a good party for it is the hardest part. That can make the current endgame stale when there could be many more players enjoying it.

[Elusana_Celah]

The thing is these bottlenecks keep good players from advancing. I could probably do T9 in my sleep now but I can't get through it because finding a good party for it is the hardest part. That can make the current endgame stale when there could be many more players enjoying it.

That's what has me so hostile towards players who are bad at the game lol (and I define 'bad' as someone who is incapable of learning in a reasonable amount of time). I can't tell you how many hours I've wasted I mean literally must add up to weeks simply wiping in content from players who just can't handle the content at all and it literally has made me want to quit the game so many times.

However... I eventually solved my problem by eyeballing good players in the runs I did and inviting them to my linkshell and now I got a linkshell full of good mannered players I can run difficult content with and trust that they will learn and adapt and put out a good performance and not waste my time. Honestly that is what you gotta do if you want to succeed at difficult content.

[shape]

I don't get it nearly all MM'o operate the same, Tera,wow,FFXIV etc. The main content is designed so that any one can do it, the amount of time taken depends on play-style. The hard content this topic is referring to is T9-T13 Bcoil, good luck getting any of those down without an organised group. I wont go into the people who whine about wanting to do T9 + because that's another topic, but basically you, meaning 1 means nothing in a raid, you need 7 other people, who are also of a certain ability, so stop saying I can do T9 (unless your apply for for a raid spot, but that just makes you 1 of the 8 pieces of the puzzle). Its not I can do T9, it is we can do T9 etc. (although raid leader gets to have little more glory)

Mobs die fast in this game, there trash, Hunts get face rolled ( its a hunt real life hunting parties can be big in numbers). Tera probably had the closest thing to hard optional content with its BAMS (Big Ass Monster)But most the time it was a waste of time to solo one( although you did feel bad-ass)And even they got Nerf-ed.

If anything the way FFXIV handles adding new hard content while lowering the level on older content is a good thing, and i play a lot of hours ( not casual). Does the OP mean gating content you need this item from this XXX place to even try this raid, that not hard that's just more of a time sink(and a pain in the ass since all members of your static would need it)

From what we have heard about the expansion there making a normal(easy) mode for raids and a hard mode( for people who really actually raid) this was also done before in WOW, it did not make the real version easier(although Cataclysm raids where not that hard). Wrapping this up If you want a hardcore time sink then go play Wildstar (ye that turned out great), yes I played this as well.

[ShaneDawn]

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That, I can understand. However. Finding people with similar interests and roughly the same skill level as you is part of the experience. I mastered T9 pretty fast, but had to go out of my way to create connections with other capable people. I also got into a static in FCoB shortly after beating T9. Ever since, I've helped several parties of frands and FC parties get their clear on T9. Even though they got their T9 clear relatively easy, they haven't got into FCoB parties. If one can't get connections to beat T9, they will only run into the same issue in FCoB.

Having more bottlenecks means that the people playing the current neck are of higher caliber and you can expect better runs in general. Say, you queue/pf T9. Which do you think is a stronger alternative in general to have in your party; Those who have done everything up to T9, or some wannabes who jump straight into T9 after T5?

[ShaneDawn]

I am not without sympathy towards you though. I have no doubt you have the personal talent to clear it. More than actual skill checks, the current T9 bottleneck also test out the strength of your connections within the game. It's mainly due to there being a lot of people in content they can't handle (T5->T9 yoloes).

The same social connections thrive in FCoB as well, although I can see it getting easier on the next patch with the df introducion. However, I don't expect df parties to be able to clear anything above T11 unless they (hopefully not :c) go out of their way to nerf the content.

Tl;dr More bottle necks means better players in the gaps in general. Better players-->better runs-->easier to form solid parties--> easier to clear it. Having onlu a few bottlenecks only benefits those who are just barely on the skill check and can expect to be semi-carried.

[Moomba33]

I'll stop asking SE to make things easy when they stop gating story behind difficult content.
To me Coil would the equivalent of having to beat Emerald and Ruby weapon in order to get the backstory of Jenova in VII.
Actually it's worse since the turn based games take less skill to execute strategies and don't require you to schedule with other people.

I think separate story and hard modes which are never nerfed are the way to go.
I'm curious to see if Alexander normal is closer in difficulty to the nerfed t1-4, 6 and 7 or to 5 and 9 which got echo but no nerfs. Or to 8 which was nerfed but is not as easy to beat in DF as the other nerfed turns.

[Wulfyn]

I think another problem with this game is that it's not forgiving compared to ffxi, it is a game of absolutes with generally no chance to recover let alone win if people start dropping. So you have game mechanics that are absolute and you have some player attitudes that are absolute. By the way adding harder modes to existing dungeons is laziness by the developers imo. Recycled content... fun...not. I never enjoyed the Primals because of the absoluteness of the fights. What makes SE think I would enjoy even harder versions? Only one I have enjoyed at all was King Moogle.

[Synestra]

I will say this FFXIV messed up by making the endgame a "Side Story" to begin with, when if you cleared it would realize it (should) play a major role in the main scenario.

For me Coil story is main scenario as it has more revelance story vise than current main scen questline, and imo adding "story mode" and "raid mode" in Alexander is pretty good way to handle this even tho i also kinda like that there is only one way and that is the hard way, as it gives you a motivation to gitgud. I just hope it will be just 2 modes instead WoW style where it has now 4 diffirent modes >_>

[Mugiawara]

There is already going to be a 'story mode' for the next big raid, something I think is ridiculously stupid, but it should satisfy people who don't want to put in any effort, so what else is there to do?

I don't even get these posts. It's optional, you're still going to have your normal Raid.
IMO, they should change Savage into a story mode. I don't think many people give a rat's behind about Savage.