It lost me when in order to upgrade to this "epic" and "powerful" weapon, I had to kill level 4 monsters repeatedly.
From now on I pass on silly content like the hunts and relics where zero challenge is required.

It lost me when in order to upgrade to this "epic" and "powerful" weapon, I had to kill level 4 monsters repeatedly.
From now on I pass on silly content like the hunts and relics where zero challenge is required.
The 9 books are so horrible. Up to zenith the quest is well done.
The ATMA farming post nerf is tolerable.
The books are terrible, boring and annoying.
Alex farming is now tolerable
Light farming is a grind but at least you can do most anything and progress.
The zodiac books are pretty bad but tolerable, at least 90% of it is current LvL content.



Best Zodiac Weapon video ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCys_g85XeQ


The real issue are those stupid books, no one likes themThe 9 books are so horrible. Up to zenith the quest is well done.
The ATMA farming post nerf is tolerable.
The books are terrible, boring and annoying.
Alex farming is now tolerable
Light farming is a grind but at least you can do most anything and progress.
The zodiac books are pretty bad but tolerable, at least 90% of it is current LvL content.

And remember kids, raiders are the real reason relics are utter crap and boring! "We do so much work for a weaker weapon! Boohoo!" Raid weapons get buffed, relic weapons get shoved behind a grind wall for a worse weapon.



1. Crafting and gathering say hello, and they're both plenty grindyI liked it. Three times over. This is the ONLY grindy thing that exists in this game. Some people actually like that kind of thing. Go get your tomestone, primal, or raid weapon. Leave grinders the single solitary grind we have in this game. And if you think this was the worst grind in any mmo, you haven't played enough mmos
2. I've seen bigger grinds, but not one that's more BORING because there's literally 0 danger to you while completing these "objectives".
The books may as well be sightseeing brochures of Eorzea, encouraging you to go check everything off the list because that's really all they are: a checklist of mundane shit that couldn't hope to challenge you, haphazardly tossed into the game in an effort to ensure veteran players keep lower level content alive at the expense of their ability to stay awke.
Last edited by RichardButte; 02-22-2015 at 01:15 AM.
How bored the questline is is strictly based on individual playstyle. Anti-social? prefer to solo? ITS GOING TO BE BORING. Love harmless play in the chatbox? prefer playing with others? you are going to have a blast.
Personally i have 3 Zodiac weapons, with a 4th inprogress, all 4 with max Det, take a wild guess how much time i spent earning gil AND materia converting, i have no clue either but i made new friends and reacquainted with some old ones along the way.
When i was doing the Novus to Nexus portion of my NIN Weapon, i ran into someone i hadn't seen since 1.0. It was in Syrcus Tower, guy was like "<Laedrian Kiang>? i dont know a <Laedrian Kiang>, but i know a <Kaedrian Liang>." Then it went on from there.
Stop treating them like quests, they're not. It's going to be an adventure depending on how social you are. I'd write more but, lolcharlimit/postlimit.
Fine. Only combat class grind in the game. I don't care for endgame crafting and gathering because I think it's 'boring'. Boring is an opinion and some people do actually like the relic quest as is, did them repeatedly before nerfs etc. Fortunately this game is pretty good about offering a variety of ways to progress ad combat classes so if you don't like 1 path you can just skip that path. If you don't like relic quests, then do a different weapon path with primals, tomes, or raids and leave the grinders to grind.




And those zodiac relics of yours will soon be ilevel 135 weapons. Well worth the time and effort to me and oddly enough for most in my circles who are working in ATMA, on BOOKS, melding their scrolls, collecting light and more. If it was that boring most of my friends wouldn't be bothering and that simply isn't the case especially after the nerfs. One certainly doesn't need to "speed run" a relic in order to earn one.
I'm personally curious with what some here do with their time that they consider to be not boring. I do lots of things from War and Crafting and Relics and more. It's all part of the game and having more to do makes it that much more fun.
Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 02-22-2015 at 01:40 AM.


Yeah, the worst part is the animus books for me. If it weren't for them, I'd probably do multiple relics in my spare time. If I could buy multiple books at one time it wouldn't be as big of a deal even, then I could work on them all just running through the world. I'm swimming in soldiery enough for the other stages.
If I hadn't kept up with my WHM relic from patch to patch I wouldn't have continued for sure. Just don't have the time for this grind in games any more.
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