Dear Ninjas

[Faelandaea]

Ninjas sound complicated. I did some reading (I do not have a Ninja, myself. Just a Rogue but he has yet to do anything Nina) and I guess these Ninjutsus (spelling?) are a series of buttons pressed per buff/skill/action? Sounds obnoxious. My standing on the prefight buffs was based on playing SCH as healer and BRD for DPS. Single click buffs, etc, so I can definitely see where some frutration would come into play for Ninjas.

I guess if I was a Ninja and i was with a tank that went slow and did ready checks, I'd start my buff during the ready check?

[Darkstride]

Ninjas sound complicated. I did some reading (I do not have a Ninja, myself. Just a Rogue but he has yet to do anything Nina) and I guess these Ninjutsus (spelling?) are a series of buttons pressed per buff/skill/action? Sounds obnoxious. My standing on the prefight buffs was based on playing SCH as healer and BRD for DPS. Single click buffs, etc, so I can definitely see where some frutration would come into play for Ninjas.

Huton has a 70 second buff duration. Using it pre-fight still gives it plenty of uptime once the battle starts, unlike other DPS buffs. It's better to pre-cast and already have Huton running so that you can cast another Ninjutsu (such as Suiton) once the fight has started.

Mudras (the combos needed for Ninjutsu) really aren't that difficult. I like how it works. The only pesky part is when latency causes lag when making a combo.

[LineageRazor]

Personally I've always wondered why people start their short-term buffs while standing there at the door in the first place.

Greased Lightning is an exception to this. GL is built up during combat, and wears off pretty quickly if not sustained through continued combat. A MNK is at their best when combat is pretty much constant and continuous. While it is to be understood that there are times when a healer needs to recover MP or whatever, when a tank seems to be derping around for no good reason when they could be pulling, it can be very aggravating for a MNK who'd prefer to dive in and start punching.

The amount of damage per second lost between a MNK going into the fight already pumped up with three stacks and going into a fight having to rebuild their GL from scratch is quite significant. This isn't a "buff they cast while standing at the door", it's a buff leftover from the previous fight - which COULD continue on into the next fight, if the tank is snappy!

[Frozenbear]

The only reason this should occur is to recover from botching Huton. Because its better than the rabbit :P

NOTHING IS BETTER THAN THE BUNNY!
except maybe

[Frozenbear]

I always use Huton.

Dear tanks....

can you please start pulling faster! stop wasting Ninjas' Huton by doing nothing in front of the boss and does that useless ready check.
thank you.

Oh! or how about the tanks that wait till just after you put down a circle, then they pull the whole effing crowd of mobs OFF the circle and stand right next to it with the pull.

My ninja friends RAVE about those tanks.

[Frozenbear]

In all fairness, if I don't use a Ninjutsu, it's because the lag caught me. Sometimes, it's only enough to throw the Shuriken lol...

Sometimes, my Mudras active like TEN...JIN...CHI... Sometimes it's TEN............CHI lol

Totaly unerstandable. getting a bunny is a far cry from using almost nothing, and alot of ninjas are guilty of the latter. I know this because I have a close friend who mains ninja and it is one of his biggest pet peeves. the other being of course mudra lag

[Frozenbear]

All the Ninjas who don't use Ninjutsus are disrespecting the people in their party that actually do their job.



I know this. Most Dragoons don't. Hence me wondering about the increasing number of Dragoons actually using it.



I made this thread as a Ninja main, because frankly, people who give the job a bad name rub me the wrong way.

And to the people who apparently have never seen a Ninja not using Ninjutsus: You probably don't use the DF and go to CT/STWoD very often? You get all kinds of Ninjas there, some don't use them at all, some use single target Dotons, some never use Huton...only a few actually do the correct rotation.

This is the result of people learning how to play post 50 soley in ST while they farm gear. they think they are doing GREAT and won't hear a word otherwise.

[Evangela]

some WoD raiders are so horrible. like tanks who can't even tank the first mini-boss room and white mages who don't use Medica II or Regen.

probably because SE nerfed every post 50 dungeons and trials so new players don't know what are they supposed to do.

[Frozenbear]

I always use Huton.

Dear tanks....

can you please start pulling faster! stop wasting Ninjas' Huton by doing nothing in front of the boss and does that useless ready check.
thank you.

Dear ninja <3,
I would have to be a raving loon to pull a boss without at least looking behind me to make sure everyone is ready. I understand the logic behind speed runs, but pulling as fast as i can to make sure you never start a fight without buffs is redeculous. ask a drg or a monk about starting a big pull or a boss without buffs. sometimes life hands you lemons and you make some (slightly) lower dps-aid. the damn dungeon only takes 20 minutes tops even pulling slowly.

[Frozenbear]

Dear ninja <3, (continued from :
sometimes life hands you lemons and you make some (slightly) lower dps-aid. the damn dungeon only takes 20 minutes tops even pulling slowly.)

I feel your pain but there is only so much headlong rushing i can do, especially if the whm is waiting on bene and my hallowed is down etc. lots of things happening during a run. Ive tried keeping the pulls up for a monks GL once. Once. just not worth the trouble. so i balance it instead. I dont know about standing there and staring off into space though to be fair, so maybe im just missing your point. if so i am sorry. most tanks i run with pull at top speed, split the pulls in random, stupid places, and rush headlong through the mobs, whether they can handle them or not.