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    Coralie Moonseeker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elazu View Post
    "I can't be bothered to play well" does not deserve respect. Neither does "I play how I want, regardless of how detrimental it is to my fellow party members".
    This just reminds me of those "snow flakes" summoners who wants to use Ifrit or Titan on end game "hard mode or expert" dungeon. I mean, there are reasons why certain things are regarded as more "effective" within the community, and if you play that class, you kinda expected to know your normal combo and rotation (and what pet you should use). Granted, the most optimal ways of doing may be somewhat restrictive and only give you very few variant - but it has been tested to be the most effective when it comes to outputting the most damage.

    I can just see those "snow flakes" running around with "BUT I want to be DIFFERENT, I am so SPECIAL, I do what I want, I don't follow others, I know what I am doing!!" If you are indeed good, and well versed with the knowledge of your class abilities and rotation and able to come up with a slight variation of "the normal combo that is regarded effective" - then by all means do it. Not being able to clear bosses or wiping multiple times because you "want to be different" is causing griefs to other - and wasting their time - which is a very rude thing to do.
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 02-16-2015 at 07:30 AM.

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    Hitman Hohenheim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elazu View Post
    "I can't be bothered to play well" does not deserve respect. Neither does "I play how I want, regardless of how detrimental it is to my fellow party members". And that is the main issue here, especially because a pretty big part of the playerbase seems to share this attitude and does not want to hear advice or use actual strategies for boss fights. They are content with and feel entitled to be a nuisance to the other players around them.

    Also, why do we, as players who do their job and put an effort into clearing the duty, need to back down from using the duty finder?
    " If you find yourself unable to deal with this and see yourself coming to the forums for the sole reason of masking negativity behind trying to advise others on how to play (Not respecting each others Playstyle) " Then Just don't Duty find. -Hohenheim (Me)

    You somehow magically missed the beginning of that Paragraph Bro >.>. Still Im going to address your Point. Before you make decisions, I assume that you weight your options before doing so. You already recognize that certain gaming behaviour cause you to get Annoyed/Mad/Raggafragga. Duty Finder is by 1 of a few methods of which you can go about achieving what you're out to Achieve. Duty Finder cannot achieve anything that Forming a Static or Using the Party Finder couldn't (Unless ur simply going for Commendations which just hit my mind just now). With the last two, you yourself can control more of the factors that you wouldnt be able to in duty finder. Get individuals that Hey...want to push it to the Max just like you or even Take it easy just like the others. Get Specific classes that accommodate each other well, as well as a chance to converse with individuals before partaking in the content to get a grasp of if they know what they're doing or not. Yes its not perfect methods, but again you possess more control over the factors than with Duty finder.

    Point being, you think before doing the action. You know yourself that everyone in this whole game doesn't hold the same ideas of good game play as you. Duty Finder Pulls from all servers, meaning the chances increases greatly that you encounter someone who does something you particularly as an individual doesn't like. YOU STILL CHOOSE TO USE DUTY FINDER, Rolling the Dice despite understanding that "This" Is what you can get ? You are free to do whatever the hell you want with the Risk getting wrecked, but you have no one to Blame but yourself, and your aggression/Negativity should not be directed towards any group just because you took the risk.

    You get annoyed with Certain play and expect "Randoms" to play a certain way BUT You Still use Duty Finder. I can understand if this was the ONLY Viable Method...but it's NOT! Jesus Christ Man What sense does doing this Make!? I Honestly want to know lol
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    Last edited by Anemone_Valesti; 02-16-2015 at 07:56 AM.

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    Magmarink Dragregory
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    This is another of absurd thread saying "others sux and i'm already doing my job" thread.. OP can just leave advice saying players should use ninjutsu instead of bragging and pointing players to be sux.. If i were to point out things, you peep who claim to be already doing yer job are practically doing the same thing by saying "i"m playing the way i want bruh" since you just claim to play it strictly to your "job description" which is pretty much doesnt span anything into using any specific action to use and claiming that you just dont want to play harder to cover up and babysit the weakness of other players..
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    Its quite simple lvlagmarink
    dps role = maximum dps (unless either a mechanics require you to tone down or b tank cannot maintain aggro which will cause a wipe)
    Dodge crap
    Use debuffs and buffs if applicable on that dps role

    Tank roles:
    Dodge crap
    Hold 100% hate
    Maximum dps while maintaining hate
    Correct use of cooldowns to take as least dmg as possible

    healer roles:
    Dodge crap
    keep the party alive
    (dps if possible)

    If you happily play your role with minimum effort there's something wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupiduglytaru View Post
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    You do realise that there's need to be balanced between the 3 whereas it would be called holy trinity.. And it should be balanced to what's the party need at that time, not in a way that other people can use this, when one cant that means that person sux..
    However my statements in regard to this topic is that there is no such specific things saying someone need to use x as in the description of a job they are playing.. Heck is i even saved a tank and healer once on BLM because i used psychic in in game content, which i dont think any other BLM would use..

    If you read my point, i'm not by all means against people giving advice on getting efficient in playing, but pointing out people to be crap about it is very vague as in people can clear x content anyway and next question would be if "action" is actually needed in the fight or not..

    I really have no idea if someone can clear a content happily with minimum effort can be called wrong.. That's being relaxing casual alright..
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    Last edited by lvlagmarink; 02-17-2015 at 03:38 PM.

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    Believe it or not, most people are content with just pushing buttons at random.
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    Faelandaea Dravin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerrigen View Post
    Believe it or not, most people are content with just pushing buttons at random.
    Yeah that is something about FFXIV that bugs me compared to any other MMO I play. You can NOT customize your rotation. Every class has an assigned and VERY VERY specific rotation they have to use - even those of us who are main healers. We can NOT deviate from that rotation.

    However, I choose to play FFXIV, so I choose to abide by those specified rotations and do my job as the developers have designed my job to do it. FFXIV still makes me happy even with these assigned and specified rotations - at least in FFXIV healers are still needed. I quit GW2 because they eliminated any need for healers completely by making EVERYONE a healer. ~facepalm~ So much for teamwork. Now it's a zerg game.

    People here - not pointing the finger at Ninjas . . . . I am pointing it at EVERYONE, including myself - just needs to learn their jobs, learn the required rotations for their job (they are found on Google all over the place), and quit trying to be individuals with your class. You want to be an individual? Get some nice gear and glamour the hell out of it to look different, but you cannot be different in your rotations. It doesn't work that way in this game and all you will do is get people pissed at you and posting threads like this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerrigen View Post
    Believe it or not, most people are content with just pushing buttons at random.
    That, there is no other explaination why so many people in random groups do abyssal damage, you don't need a parser to see how slow the mobs die compared when you have good DPS with you.
    Most of the time it's not even the gear but really people randomly mashing buttons in favor to use the cooler looking skills. (Tri-Disaster spamming summoners....)
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    Why is this thread still in existence? No one is going to change for the good or the bad. You guys need to.... "Let it go!"
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    Jim Berry
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    Ninja Lv 90
    In all fairness, if I don't use a Ninjutsu, it's because the lag caught me. Sometimes, it's only enough to throw the Shuriken lol...

    Sometimes, my Mudras active like TEN...JIN...CHI... Sometimes it's TEN............CHI lol
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