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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    "A better enmity system where you have to actually worry about enmity and decide not to use certain skills." Well tanks are supposed to drop into offensive stance when they have either gained enough agro. Requires some judgement and knowledge of the fight. They can also opt to swap a lot of their excess vit for str too, which creates stricter cooldown usage and makes dropping defiance/shield oath that bit more risky. This has to be done in a manner that doesn't prevent the healer from dpsing also. Though I admit, if all a tank cares for is ilvl, vitality and holding agro and never dropping their defence stance then yh they must lead a dull life.

    I can see what u mean about the classes being simplistic, but when you are placed in a hard encounter, and want to push things to the limit, it then becomes a test to perform well despite the mechanics you have to deal with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    Though I admit, if all a tank cares for is ilvl, vitality and holding agro and never dropping their defence stance then yh they must lead a dull life.
    There's absolutely no difference to the rotation of a Paladin whether in Sword Oath or Shield Oath. We have one and only one combo.

    That said, the strength of the Paladin is in its simplicity. Anyone who wants a more "interesting" tank job should play WAR. It's just how the jobs are designed.
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    I actually like how the game is simple and linear. Things like skill trees or more mechanics to do things in a different way just give an illusion of choice.(Majority of people like the path of least resistance.) But hey, if SE can make the game more interesting, I'm all for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    There's absolutely no difference to the rotation of a Paladin whether in Sword Oath or Shield Oath. We have one and only one combo.

    That said, the strength of the Paladin is in its simplicity. Anyone who wants a more "interesting" tank job should play WAR. It's just how the jobs are designed.
    Going sword oath at times gives one a lot more to think about, than hitting 1,2,3. And agreed on war xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    Well tanks are supposed to drop into offensive stance when they have either gained enough agro
    If a tank ever did this while I am healing, especially a Warrior, I will cancel all casting, dismiss my fairy, and let him die just a little faster.

    Me thinks you didn't exactly think through this comment entirely.

    -Balls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neclinesh View Post
    If a tank ever did this while I am healing, especially a Warrior, I will cancel all casting, dismiss my fairy, and let him die just a little faster.

    Me thinks you didn't exactly think through this comment entirely.

    -Balls
    Why do you think tanks can pull 350-400 dps? They certainly don't do it in shield oath/defiance. And in the same parses, scholars can be seen to be still doing good dps. Seen a recent t10 parse with pld doing 400+, sch doing 400+ and war doing like 350. Sure it's probably the greatest example of overplay ever but there it is.
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