Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
Wasn't the Sylphs' tempering a result of their summoning him to defend the woods? I seem to recall they knew that was the cost of summoning him to begin with. Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think Ramuh has the same deliberate intention as Ifrit who just enjoys enthralling people.
I looked back at some quest dialogue to double check. Frixio described the event like this:

These ones resorted to summoning Lord Ramuh to protect the wood from Imperial ones. This one counseled against doing so, but was not heeded. Against this ones wishes, Lord Ramuh was summoned...and all those ones who took part became touched ones. Touched ones, meanwhile, wanted to turn these ones into touched ones, and did know how...so this one fled to little Solace with all those ones who did not wish to be bound to Lord Ramuh.
From that description, It could be that the summoning process itself caused the Tempering...but I don't think so, because Frixio also talks about the touched ones trying to get the other Slyphs tempered and since the Slpyhs of Little Solace wouldn't summon Ramuh then the method must not involve summoning. Instead I think it's the same method we've seen in action from other Primals, a deliberate tempering by the Primal itself.

So I take Frixio's description to mean that the Slyphs who summoned Ramuh were immediately tempered by him after he arrived and then they tried to capture non-tempered Slpyhs and bring them to Ramuh to be tempered. Ramuh may have thought he was doing this to them for their own protection, but it still hold that tempering is one of the most evil things that you can do to a person in FFXIV's universe.