Alexander

[DoctaruRavenbe]

So I take Frixio's description to mean that the Slyphs who summoned Ramuh were immediately tempered by him after he arrived and then they tried to capture non-tempered Slpyhs and bring them to Ramuh to be tempered. Ramuh may have thought he was doing this to them for their own protection, but it still hold that tempering is one of the most evil things that you can do to a person in FFXIV's universe.

actually I remember Fernwhales answering this question at fanfest. He was the one whom stated that the sylphs who summoned Ramuh then also asked him to be tempered.

[Belhi]

Considering the tempered Sylph were kidnaping the untempered Sylph when Ramuh wasn't even summoned, it seems likely that there could be an alternative method of tempering that doesn't involve the primal's direct action.

[lololink]

Considering the tempered Sylph were kidnaping the untempered Sylph when Ramuh wasn't even summoned, it seems likely that there could be an alternative method of tempering that doesn't involve the primal's direct action.

Not really, they summoned him briefly once before 2.0 that's when he tempered the first time at that time Ramuh didn't try to harm anyone and vanished but the sylphs were concerned that if he is summoned again he might use his judgement bolt this time, and then the sylphs tempered each others.

[WellFooled]

actually I remember Fernwhales answering this question at fanfest. He was the one whom stated that the sylphs who summoned Ramuh then also asked him to be tempered.

Man, I totally missed that. Do you by chance have a link to a video or a transcript of this I could check out?

Even with this new info, I still hold Ramuh to be evil though. If someone walked up to you and asked you to take away their free will and replace it with a zealot's desire to worship you, would you say yes if you were a good person?

But...I'm also repeatedly dragging this thread off topic ._. The morality of Ramuh always hits a nerve with me. My apologies everyone.

[Nialle]

Even with this new info, I still hold Ramuh to be evil though. If someone walked up to you and asked you to take away their free will and replace it with a zealot's desire to worship you, would you say yes if you were a good person?.

I've always gotten the impression that Primals are less than 100% autonomous beings, and are manifests of the desires of the people who summon them. So he doesn't have a problem tempering Sylphs because the ones to summoned him want him to do it and he's largely a manifestation their own wills, despite having his own personality to a degree.