Viability of a Spell Speed WHM set up?

[Sanguisio]

lol lets all calm down.

Congrats on downing t10 on a fresh class.

However the way you posted your vid it was a bit like you either baiting or showing off.

Lyrica wasnt being an elitist she was pointing things out, an elitist with torn you to shreds and been pretty rude about it, lyrica was offering pointers on things you missed.

[Donjo]

There's a difference between playing sub-optimal and being a liability. If you actually read the list, you would have noticed there are mechanic derps in there as well, not just class aspects.

And yes, the game is actually easy. Simply because every "hard" content is heavily mechanic based that is also scripted. It even gets significantly easier the more gear the group gets as it makes the incoming- and outgoing damage more forgiving (DPS checks) and eases up the healing game. But liabilities in a static group would stagger the progress, gear or no gear. It's not exactly fair towards others either by playing it half-assed (and possibly causing wipes) while others are giving it their all.

I would say that there are four classes of play.

Perfect: Not a single mistake was made. You played your class to the absolute peak of its ability and nailed every mechanic in your sleep. This is functionally impossible to reach consistently.
Optimal: You played very well. There were some small mistakes, but none of them caused any particular danger. If the majority of your party is playing this way, a win is easy.
Not Optimal: You made some mistakes, sure. However, you didn't screw up on anything that would have gotten the party killed upon failure. A win is possible even if your entire party is here, but it's the minimum level of skill to not be a liability.
Liability: Your party didn't win the fight, and it's your fault.

So, there is a difference between Not Optimal and a Liability: One of them still wins the fight. As long as the Not Optimal person(s) is trying to improve, things will be alright. From the sounds of things, the person you are attacking clearly is trying to improve. Caustic criticism helps nobody.

Please refer to this page to get an idea of the kind of person you're currently being on these forums. Perfection isn't necessary in this game and it hopefully never will be. It is simply not appropriate to sneer down at people for not being perfect. It could be justified if you did consistently play perfectly, but the very nature of being human undermines this ability. As long as you are capable of making a mistake, it's wrong to viciously attack others for making them too.

[VanilleFang]

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I think Lyrica's point, as she kind of pointed out already, was that the user posted the video to prove they weren't a "scrubby" healer, and that they were trying to seemingly brag about their T10 clear. Lyrica pointed out that her video didn't prove anything, and gave her information on how to better her T10 run.

So the main point Lyrica was trying to make was that she claimed she wan't a scrubby healer but posted a video that prove the exact opposite. Though I may be wrong.

And I kind of have to disagree with your list. A liability doesn't mean they will cause your team to lose. A liability is anyone who is not doing their job to the fullest, or is being lazy, and is just making everyone else's job harder. You can still win but it will a lot harder than with someone who was not a liability.

An example would be if you were to queue into ST and find that your fellow healer is doing very little, or nothing at all. They are a liability. You can still win, by solo healing, but it will be far more difficult. This is not "Not Optimal", this is a liability.

[Nashred]

I do believe secondary stats are less useful..
I think DET. is the best.
But after that I prefer spell speed. This game uses dodge skills so much and as a white mage you can not heal while dodging. So getting that one spell or second spell off before moving can make allot of difference. That is something no math formula can account for.
If you didn't have to dodge so much anything would be better than spell speed.

[Cynfael]

Talia began with personal attacks and assumptions from out of nowhere and then tried to rebut a claim about scrubby healers with a personal vid of T10 SCH performance. There was no way this process was going to go well.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Please refer to this page to get an idea of the kind of person you're currently being on these forums. Perfection isn't necessary in this game and it hopefully never will be. It is simply not appropriate to sneer down at people for not being perfect. It could be justified if you did consistently play perfectly, but the very nature of being human undermines this ability. As long as you are capable of making a mistake, it's wrong to viciously attack others for making them too.

You're mistaken here on several levels. VanilleFang already explained most of it (thanks), so I'll just skip to whatever is remaining. You believe that I think perfection is necessary. Where did I claim that? Or even anywhere between the lines. You're mistaking "perfection" with "effort". There are people who put effort into things and those who don't. Not putting in effort while the rest of your group is, I find that extremely disrespectful. And on each side of the coin there are extremities: Elitists and scrubs. That link refers to what kind of person you are on the forums, by the way.

[VanilleFang]

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Your welcome. I just wanted to make it clear that you weren't being an elitist or whatever in any way. You supply a lot of helpful information on this forum so, from what I've seen on here, I know you aren't one.

Now I'm really getting off topic. lol

[Talia_Hailwind]

Talia began with personal attacks and assumptions from out of nowhere.

The only thing more SPSD gives you is a fraction of a second longer to dislodge your thumb from your ass and attend to the mechanic that shouldn't have been any surprise to begin with.

You attacked my comments first when I was voicing my opinion of turn 10. Don't claim you weren't, the comment is right there.

[Staris]

I love spell speed and think it is mathematically and perceptively underrated.
Reasons
- Other stats worthless, (Det near worthless, Crit actually a negative in many situations).
- Works with Stoneskin and Esuna (As does piety, kinda)
- Facilitates Movement/ability timing.
- boosts gain from fey glow, which makes hitting extra ability cutoffs, under divine seal for example ,pretty easy.

[Cynfael]

You attacked my comments first when I was voicing my opinion of turn 10. Don't claim you weren't, the comment is right there.

...and where did I direct that comment to you? Or to anyone for that matter? Had I wished to address you specifically, I would have used the quote function.

The only person who would take offense to my statement is one who refuses to learn and continues to make those same mistakes.