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    Player
    Moqi's Avatar
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    Goji Degotye
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    Twintania
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    Botanist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    It's because it doesn't matter one iota what combination of secondaries you chose; everything's going to be just fine. Or, rather, it'll be a player mistake that causes a wipe, not a few stat points.
    Perfectly said. If you are relying on those 100 more HP per heals of Det, or 0.04 seconds less of cast time from Spell Speed you're doing it wrong anyway. The difference is so minimal that most (if not all) talk is just circle jerking theorycraft.
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Probs devs have something in store for SS overall.
    Perhaps it'll scale higher once we get to higher levels with more diverse gear/ stat customization?
    Hopefully in 3.0 ?
    Cuz another year of this cookie cutter building and i might call it quits cuz
    There's really no fun in doing everything the meta way unless ur in a static that knows what they r doing and r over geared etc which will compensate ur/ ppl's different ways off building.
    I.e man mode extreme primals and coils lol.
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    Sariena Adeline
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    Zalera
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Oh, I kinda said in the OP that "NOT going to be playing it in Final Coil (BLM)." ^^;

    My WHM is purely for Dungeons and Primals haha. I figured the Spell Speed would help me chain cast to keep the Tanks up during them e-peen pulls haha
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    Anna Lannis
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    I have 600 base spell speed before food, and I'm proud of it. Why, because I like being mobile and responsive. Stoneskin, Raise, Esuna, and the like benefit from Spell Speed until Determination and Critical, it effects *every* spell you cast. Not to mention you can slide cast and get out of the fire/plumes and still get your heal off. Not to mention it helps with DPSing during mass pulls in dungeons.
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    Jim Berry
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    Malboro
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Personally, though, I love Determination. I choose it as a main secondary when I can. Spell Speed is next. I love moments when I'm casting, need to move, and cure still trigger.
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    Player Sanguisio's Avatar
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    Sanguisio Alorea
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    Phoenix
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    It depends on your party make up, and what you primarily like doing.

    SS as a WHM who does alot of DPS is handy, but then again so is DET.
    SS as a WHM who does the bulk of healing, imo SS is useless. Any benefit from it can be off-set with being observant, reaction time, and pre-emptive healing so you might as well make those heals bigger.

    Get some gear which is equal in quality and try both the builds out imo.
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    Player Sanguisio's Avatar
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    Sanguisio Alorea
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    Phoenix
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    lol lets all calm down.

    Congrats on downing t10 on a fresh class.

    However the way you posted your vid it was a bit like you either baiting or showing off.

    Lyrica wasnt being an elitist she was pointing things out, an elitist with torn you to shreds and been pretty rude about it, lyrica was offering pointers on things you missed.
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    Sir Nashred
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    I do believe secondary stats are less useful..
    I think DET. is the best.
    But after that I prefer spell speed. This game uses dodge skills so much and as a white mage you can not heal while dodging. So getting that one spell or second spell off before moving can make allot of difference. That is something no math formula can account for.
    If you didn't have to dodge so much anything would be better than spell speed.
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Talia began with personal attacks and assumptions from out of nowhere and then tried to rebut a claim about scrubby healers with a personal vid of T10 SCH performance. There was no way this process was going to go well.
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