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  1. #61
    Player
    Donjo's Avatar
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    The big reason why stacking Strength on a Tank is possible is because the difficulty of this game is much, much more in the mechanics than it is in the numbers. Even when a piece of content is given a Tank at the minimum iLvl for it, monsters are still doing far less damage than their target's HP pool would suggest that they can handle. So many bosses are of the "Tank Buster! auto auto auto Tank Buster!" pattern that healing isn't about HPS; it's about skillfully getting Stoneskin/Adlo/Tank Cooldown up to take the buster, heal the tank to full, and wait for the next one.

    So, the devs really should decide which path they wish to take with Tank gear: lower HP gains to better match incoming damage or make everything hit harder to actually require the use of Fending gear. This tier has been unbelievably egregious with a Tank's ability to complete the hardest content without increasing their maximum HP by even a single point over what full i110 VIT would give them. You know something a bit funny when it's everyone else who needs more HP, not the Tanks...
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  2. #62
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    WowSuchName's Avatar
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    Evana Fisher
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    Asura
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    There should be a study in term of overall party dps.

    Case (1) - Tank with STR and minimum VIT threshold + Healer on DPS when possible
    Case (2) - Tank with max VIT + Healer on DPS when possible

    I feel that Case (2) may be possible to achieve higher overall team DPS as both healer can go on DPS more often.
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  3. #63
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    Trixxy's Avatar
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    Aranea Asmodai
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    STR accessories are fine in most endgame dungeons and when you're offtanking old content, but lowbies? Please no, just put on tanking gear, level sync will minimize any dps you would be pulling anyway.
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  4. #64
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    Ooshima's Avatar
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WowSuchName View Post
    There should be a study in term of overall party dps.

    Case (1) - Tank with STR and minimum VIT threshold + Healer on DPS when possible
    Case (2) - Tank with max VIT + Healer on DPS when possible

    I feel that Case (2) may be possible to achieve higher overall team DPS as both healer can go on DPS more often.
    Nope.

    In an ideal group where everyone does their job and carry their weight, the 3 holies (because the 4th is stun resistant) + your BLM AoEs would have downed it before your Tank is going to die. Sometimes, the WHM doesn't even need to cut down on Holy and keep it on (4th or 5th) to speed up the process.

    Your WAR throwing that Overpower DPS will help to keep clear the thrash so that your healer doesn't have to exit Cleric Stance to heal.
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  5. #65
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Trixxy View Post
    STR accessories are fine in most endgame dungeons and when you're offtanking old content, but lowbies? Please no, just put on tanking gear, level sync will minimize any dps you would be pulling anyway.
    It also minimizes vit gains. I find using full STR in <lv30 content allows much better hate generation, especially against new BRD who just don't understand what those numbers over the mobs heads mean...
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  6. #66
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Because 9,500 HP on my Paladin is stupid when almost every Primal, BCoB, SCoB, Dungeon boss can hardly tickle me anyway.

    Final Coil? That's a different story.
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  7. #67
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    Soveia Shadowsong
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    Odin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dhex View Post
    Because 9,500 HP on my Paladin is stupid when almost every Primal, BCoB, SCoB, Dungeon boss can hardly tickle me anyway.

    Final Coil? That's a different story.
    I still go full VIT on stuff like Ifrit EX. Not because of the damage, but because it's so easy to drop him too fast and make him enrage. Too high DPS was already a problem in i90 and stupidly easy to do in i130.
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  8. #68
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    Jadus Salaheem
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    I still go full VIT on stuff like Ifrit EX. Not because of the damage, but because it's so easy to drop him too fast and make him enrage. Too high DPS was already a problem in i90 and stupidly easy to do in i130.
    Haven't done Ifrit in a long time but it's one of the few Primals you wear full VIT and put your weapon away.
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  9. #69
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    Jelly Nightschool
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Miaa View Post
    More HP means healer can stay in cleric stance longer. I've had to heal STR tanks that I couldn't even get my dots off on sch before i had to get out of cleric stance to keep them from dieing.
    This. I obviously don't do maths, but STR tanks actually slow groups down when I play my scholar. With a full VIT tank I can almost stay in cleric stance the whole time and DPS constantly while Selene stands in fire. Not to hurt the tank pride, but I do more damage than you.
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  10. #70
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jakeson View Post
    This. I obviously don't do maths, but STR tanks actually slow groups down when I play my scholar. With a full VIT tank I can almost stay in cleric stance the whole time and DPS constantly while Selene stands in fire. Not to hurt the tank pride, but I do more damage than you.
    If you think your DPS is seriously affected at all by 2000 more HP I doubt your ability as a SCH.
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