Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
The biggest complainers are the ones not doing enough, the ones that are doing fine and is working for is a lot larger then you think but stay quiet about it.

Raid size yes, but thats all relative and can change, I prefer a large raid size but still pro lock out, this game also actually does have just as lenient make ups, but the class loot is inconsistent more then anything, blm and smn armour is shared but mnk and drg isnt yet uses the same primary stat.


The system exists in other mmos and people have got it to work in those, thats what you are not getting through, so whats the difference here, the playerbase cannot adapt or think out of the box to get with the system, I have provided a solution, get a roster above the size of 8 and rotate people out.
How the hell do you expect players to adapt when the system restricts you to a VERY SPECIFIC SYSTEM. You go in with your 8 man static. You get some randomly generated loot. You wait another week to do it again. What is 'thinking out of the box' going to get me? How about you provide some actual examples rather than just throwing out these generic suggestions like "players need to adapt" or "think outside the box."

And really, don't even bring in this silent majority BS. You have no idea what their stance is and I can easily claim they agree with my side rather than your side. Completely pointless.

And you are wrong, this specific system has NOT even existed in another MMO. Another MMO has never restricted players to weekly caps with just 8 people, such a high number of different jobs all without a token system. You are just taking bits and pieces from other MMOs, forming your own system in mind and claiming it has always worked.

I mean come on! Listen to yourself!

Raid size is relative? Relative to what?
The game actually has lenient makeup? Not with 8 player limitations it doesn't.
Some armor is shared, weapons are not. Convenient to forget this little aspect but oh I guess it's completely fine if a Dragoon lance drops 4 weeks in a row and you don't even have a dragoon in your static.
Why are you pro-lockout? What exactly do you gain from this system?