No love for V-day.

[Moqi]

What is more important, good storytelling or filling equality quotas? When you tell a developer "Oh and include someone gay, trans, inter-racial, and colored people to avoid offending someone" in an already tight story you are in fact dampening with the creative process.

No it doesn't, this is nonsense. If Thancred were hitting on men instead of women would the main storyline be affected in any way? Nope. If Wawarukka, Kokomo and Mamajaru in the weaver storyline had been all men or women, would it have changed anything in regards to Wawarukka's feelings of inadequacy because he was poor? Nope. Would Minfilia lead the Scions any differently than she is now if she were a transwoman? Nope. It's exactly what they did with Wanderer's Place HM and it wasn't really any different from other HM dungeon storyline, was it.

It's only a strain on your creative process if you have difficulties imagining minorities as actual people and writing them a such.

There is a blatant sob-story in the OP. "I'm alone, so I'm sad. Your game doesn't represent my ideologies, so I'm more sad now.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about since you insist on talking about ideologies as if this matter is an opinion someone can agree or disagree on instead of a fact of life that you'll have to come to terms with sooner or later, so I won't reply to you anymore.

[Marquiss]

Stuff

Pls Uninstall

[kyuven]

If Thancred were hitting on men instead of women would the main storyline be affected in any way?

The entire subplot concerning him and F'lhammin would have to be changed.

[Moqi]

The entire subplot concerning him and F'lhammin would have to be changed.

Bisexuality exists.

[kyuven]

Bisexuality exists.

Yes, it does. Which would mean your statement would have to read:

If Thancred were hitting on men and women would the main storyline be affected in any way?

In which case, the answer would of course be no. It might even be more entertaining. However, you said

If Thancred were hitting on men instead of women would the main storyline be affected in any way?

In which case, the answer is yes. Because there's at least one instance of this being relevant.

[Marquiss]

Bisexuality exists.

Pls Uninstall

[Zohnax]

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about since you insist on talking about ideologies as if this matter is an opinion someone can agree or disagree on instead of a fact of life that you'll have to come to terms with sooner or later, so I won't reply to you anymore.

Choosing to ignore what I explained, (yet again), as well as telling me I -have- to come to terms with homosexuals existing, as if its existence is a deniable fact, to try and have some sort of misguided last word is sad. You said there was no sob story, I elaborated, and now you're strawmanning again. You really aren't contributing anything at this point because you're still, (several hours later), only reading what you want to read and trying to force acceptance of the ideology that this whole thread is really based around.

[TheCurls]

The gay couple in the WP HM questline were not even major NPCs nor were we ever going to see them again afterwards (that we know of yet, anyway). Why were they able to give representation there, in what is arguably an even smaller and less noticeable role than the Valentione event, yet give absolutely no representation whatsoever for the event meant to be about love? Please don't act as if SE's hands were tied on this due to some arbitrary restraints.

I'd argue that their role is larger and more noticeable. Everyone is going to do the quest to unlock WP HM. In a week, nobody will ever do this Valentione's quest again.

[KodiHivaer]

I'd argue that their role is larger and more noticeable. Everyone is going to do the quest to unlock WP HM. In a week, nobody will ever do this Valentione's quest again.

I'm going to have to disagree about the importance you place on people unlocking dungeons. I am all for lore, and reading quests, however even I have been guilty once or twice on patch days of just rushing through CSes to unlock the new dungeons. Additionally, I did watch the WP HM quest unlock scene, and at first all I thought was "Oh hey, two guys wanting to help out the Tonberries, how nice." My first thought was NOT "Hoshit SE be insertin' dem homosexuals into my lore." Or... Anything at all beyond them being two guys... Standing together... Which, as far as I know, wouldn't equate to gay.

[TheCurls]

I'm going to have to disagree about the importance you place on people unlocking dungeons. I am all for lore, and reading quests, however even I have been guilty once or twice on patch days of just rushing through CSes to unlock the new dungeons. Additionally, I did watch the WP HM quest unlock scene, and at first all I thought was "Oh hey, two guys wanting to help out the Tonberries, how nice." My first thought was NOT "Hoshit SE be insertin' dem homosexuals into my lore." Or... Anything at all beyond them being two guys... Standing together... Which, as far as I know, wouldn't equate to gay.

The point is, more people do dungeons than the seasonal quests. On top of that, this quest is only there for a week. After that, everyone new to the game and catching up and making alt characters will be unlocking dungeons and doing that quest. Yes, that quest does have higher visibility than the Valentione's one.