No love for V-day.

[Moqi]

This guilt-tripping over the lack of homosexual relationships in the holiday event is offensive in itself. You should stop being ignorant about how you want to force SE and everyone else who plays to accept your ideals.

Are you really trying to call someone ignorant when you think acknowledging your playerbase is an ideal? You can't refuse to accept reality lol.

[Zohnax]

Are you really trying to call someone ignorant when you think acknowledging your playerbase is an ideal? You can't refuse to accept reality lol.

Are you trying to condescend to me without taking in the context of the initial post as well as mine which was it was a direct response to? Stop reading only what you want to read.

[Moqi]

Are you trying to condescend to me without taking in the context of the initial post as well as mine which was it was a direct response to? Stop reading only what you want to read.

I read what you wrote and it was a mess. Hence the quote, and the reply. Asking for representation is a much needed reality check for the people who are still oblivious (or refuse to believe) to some people's existence and a way to make your game more inclusive for all your playerbase. Zero agendas or ideals at play, let alone guilt-tripping. But more importantly, it requires 0 effort and has no drawbacks.

[Kyros]

I read what you wrote and it was a mess. Hence the quote, and the reply. Asking for representation is a much needed reality check for the people who are still oblivious (or refuse to believe) to some people's existence and a way to make your game more inclusive for all your playerbase. Zero agendas or ideals at play, let alone guilt-tripping. But more importantly, it requires 0 effort and has no drawbacks.

What is more important, good storytelling or filling equality quotas? When you tell a developer "Oh and include someone gay, trans, inter-racial, and colored people to avoid offending someone" in an already tight story you are in fact dampening with the creative process. So there is no such thing as "No drawbacks" or zero effort.

Besides, you're talking like there isn't representation anyways, which there is plenty elsewhere. Last I checked the entire LGTB community still accounted for less than 5% of the population. If you want real representation like you or so called, having 1 in 3 couples represented as gay would actually have been an over-representation.

Anyways, SE really shouldn't care about offending a very small minority over idiocy. And I'm not talking about LGBT or interracial or any other minority here, I'm talking about the easily butthurt "I'm offended by anything" minority. If you look around most people (LGBT Included) couldn't give a damn about representation. You are acting like it's some sort of big issue still.

[Ashkendor]

Besides, you're talking like there isn't representation anyways, which there is plenty elsewhere. Last I checked the entire LGTB community still accounted for less than 5% of the population. If you want real representation like you or so called, having 1 in 3 couples represented as gay would actually have been an over-representation.

The OP was actually asking for 2/3 of the couples to be same-sex couples, one M/M and one F/F.

This was my first thought here, that it would be an over-representation just for the sake of it.

[Moqi]

What is more important, good storytelling or filling equality quotas? When you tell a developer "Oh and include someone gay, trans, inter-racial, and colored people to avoid offending someone" in an already tight story you are in fact dampening with the creative process.

No it doesn't, this is nonsense. If Thancred were hitting on men instead of women would the main storyline be affected in any way? Nope. If Wawarukka, Kokomo and Mamajaru in the weaver storyline had been all men or women, would it have changed anything in regards to Wawarukka's feelings of inadequacy because he was poor? Nope. Would Minfilia lead the Scions any differently than she is now if she were a transwoman? Nope. It's exactly what they did with Wanderer's Place HM and it wasn't really any different from other HM dungeon storyline, was it.

It's only a strain on your creative process if you have difficulties imagining minorities as actual people and writing them a such.

There is a blatant sob-story in the OP. "I'm alone, so I'm sad. Your game doesn't represent my ideologies, so I'm more sad now.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about since you insist on talking about ideologies as if this matter is an opinion someone can agree or disagree on instead of a fact of life that you'll have to come to terms with sooner or later, so I won't reply to you anymore.

[Marquiss]

Stuff

Pls Uninstall

[kyuven]

If Thancred were hitting on men instead of women would the main storyline be affected in any way?

The entire subplot concerning him and F'lhammin would have to be changed.

[Moqi]

The entire subplot concerning him and F'lhammin would have to be changed.

Bisexuality exists.

[Zohnax]

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about since you insist on talking about ideologies as if this matter is an opinion someone can agree or disagree on instead of a fact of life that you'll have to come to terms with sooner or later, so I won't reply to you anymore.

Choosing to ignore what I explained, (yet again), as well as telling me I -have- to come to terms with homosexuals existing, as if its existence is a deniable fact, to try and have some sort of misguided last word is sad. You said there was no sob story, I elaborated, and now you're strawmanning again. You really aren't contributing anything at this point because you're still, (several hours later), only reading what you want to read and trying to force acceptance of the ideology that this whole thread is really based around.