The Hunt Public Shaming Needs to end

[Zedd702]

Did I seriously just read about early pullers being compared to ISIS?

Have another drink and read again... there was more to that non-sense than ISIS, lol.

And then my comment from the previous page will be overlooked, because the rage will continue on and it will be buried lol.

BS aside: yes you did...

[Abriael]

Thing is... Is that it's really hard to "define" early pulling.

It's very easy to avoid early pulling. Just don't be the goon that pulls.

Before SE made hunts a mess again, we had linkshells organizing pulls with shouts and public communication. They waited a reasonable amount by hearing people's calls and giving reasonable count downs in shout. No one pulled early. No one complained when they missed a hunt because they were given reasonable time and reasonable advance notice that the mob would be pulled.

Everyone behaved as decent human beings and all went well, and guess what? People didn't really waste time, because pulls don't normally spawn back to back, and even if they did, they were just done orderly in sequence. Everyone got more rewards for their time, with no hurry and no problems.

Now the goons are back, and everything has gone to crap. Everyone gets less and everyone is bitter.

Those that don't care for waiting for others and just pull as soon as they see a hunt mob deserve the public shaming and to be shunned by the community like the damaging elements they are. They deserve to be kicked from linkshells, groups and free companies and to be generally isolated. They have absolutely no justification or excuse. Their behavior is inefficient for everyone and makes hunting an unrewarding chore for the vast majority of the community. Defending them is almost as shameful as what they do.

[Kerwin]

People rushing to hunts because they have to get to the mark to get points because they need the items/gear/glamour now because SE likes to nerf gear every other cycle to where it loses its value. #logic

This so much.

[Zedd702]

It's very easy to avoid early pulling. Just don't be the goon that pulls.

I feel like the rest of my post fell on blind eyes... That goon you refer to could have been the 1st person that discovered said hunt with his hunt group(s) that patiently waited for double, triple or even quadruple or more of the time frame it took you to get there... but because they pulled before you got there, makes them the bad guy. That is wrong.

I'm not saying that there are not those that pull the moment they get there, but it seems there is no line between a patient person that waited a long period of time vs one who pulls as soon as they arrive...

[Zohar_Lahar]

The early pulling needs to end. If someone doesn't want to be publicly shamed, all he has to do is to be a decent human being and wait.

Early pullers fully deserve the public shaming.

You mean wait for you, right?

[Abriael]

I feel like the rest of my post fell on blind eyes... That goon you refer to could have been the 1st person that discovered said hunt with his hunt group(s) that patiently waited for double, triple or even quadruple or more of the time frame it took you to get there... but because they pulled before you got there, makes them the bad guy. That is wrong.

I'm not saying that there are not those that pull the moment they get there, but it seems there is no line between a patient person that waited a long period of time vs one who pulls as soon as they arrive...

The patient person has plenty ways to avoid early pulling. We have means of communication for a reason in this game. Some use them, some don't.

Some don't WANT to use them, because the typical early puller doesn't do it to get better rewards for himself (because early pulling gives no practical advantage) he does it to prevent others from getting the rewards.

You mean wait for you, right?

No. I do the waiting more often than I'm waited for, because, quite simply, I'm not a selfish jerk. But this weak attempt to a driveby retort of yours surprises no one.

[Anneliese]

It's very easy to avoid early pulling. Just don't be the goon that pulls.

Ok then who decides who's allowed to pull a hunt mark, and why do they get to do it instead of someone else?

[Zedd702]

The patient person has plenty ways to avoid early pulling.

You are missing the point, sir...

How do you define what "early pulling" is? Just because the last person that said "Wait!" has not arrived? Or the one after that person? Or the one after that one? Or wait! What about the one after that one and that one etc...?

[Zohar_Lahar]

You are missing the point, sir...

How do you define what "early pulling" is? Just because the last person that said "Wait!" has not arrived? Or the one after that person? Or the one after that one? Or wait! What about the one after that one and that one etc...?

Near as far as I can tell, "early pull" = "I didn't get full credit/reach the Elite Mark in time." That's the most consistent definition.

[Battlewrench]