The Ninja Superthread

[Kilio]

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Red fire is handled by our SCH, and i glue to boss all the time, and yes fountain doesn't really affect our dps coz our tank pulled the boss near it.

Just wonderin coz my fellow FC mate says that his NIN on the team does 530 with the same augmented dagger in T12.

Gratz for the DW dagger, RNG is really F-ed up on our team since no Ninja BIS dropped at all thus i have to survive using Augmented and Crafted lol.

Startin to lose hope and might re-roll to MNK instead lol.

[poipoy]

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If you're glue to the boss most of the time. then 450 might not be the max you could have achieved i think, but I dont know whether you meant 450 as in the average for all phases or individual phase. P1 + P2 I could do from 540-570. bennu phase around 460-500 depending on how fast they die, wait time for big ones, and do i need to TA or just raiton, sometimes the timing is so bad lol. Last phase I'm around 460-480.
What I do was just note down how much i did everytime, and aim to increase it on next reset, albeit maybe only a slight increase lol. I was parsing around 580-600 on the dummy in a 4min30sec duration. From there I can estimate whether I'm doing good in a real fight. Those numbers are with my old gears. This week I had 3 upgrades, finally the RNGesus decided to love me this week , so hope can do better next run.

EDIT: Oh one more important thing, was your war able to keep up storm's eye? an excellent war is your best friend that makes you have consistent high dps. My team's war does an excellent job on it, even when he needs to tank bennu and pull it away. always refresh a new slashing debuff before he needs to focus on the coming new bennu pop. This is all due to familiarity though, in the early days, everyone's nervous and I had to apply debuff myself lol

[Kuroyasha]

Question: Does anyone know what opener Chloro Cradle from Lucrezia uses? Her/His dps is batsh1t cray cray. Idk when they stream or where so I cant see myself. Would love to practice that.

[Odowla]

Probably a variation of my opener since it's much more optimal at lower pings.

He probably plays at/around 20 or less ms of ping, so that opener would be crazy good.

[Kuroyasha]

Probably a variation of my opener since it's much more optimal at lower pings.

He probably plays at/around 20 or less ms of ping, so that opener would be crazy good.

Ah i c. What's yours? My mudra lag is pretty sh1t but I'd still like to practice a new one that's better than the one i currently use (basically same as the opener in OP under Best MNK NA).

[Caar]

What is a good dps number to pull in T13 with 130 weap and 135? Think my best with a 130 weap was 449 or something líke that with running to the adds on 2nd phase and only a few hits on the pain before I stack in the middle for divebomb on the last one (mnk keeps hitting it). Honestly feel I should be doing more but not sure by how much. Any advice will be nice

[SunnyHirose]

Question: Does anyone know what opener Chloro Cradle from Lucrezia uses? Her/His dps is batsh1t cray cray. Idk when they stream or where so I cant see myself. Would love to practice that.

About a month ago, someone asked, Chloro answered:

New question. Please teach me the current ninja rotation. I open DE → Sui → TA before SF → SF → Mutilate → AE before renewing DE, SF, and Mutilate. Advice, if you will?

My opening rotation is SE → BfB + IR → GS → X-Pot → DE → Sui → SE → TA + Kassatsu → SF → Rai → Mutilate →Jug + Mug.
Be warned that if you don't TA → Kassatsu before SF, you won't get TA on SF.
After that, you try to refresh any DoT that's going to fall off in about 3s, same as you it seems.

Shouldn't look all that alien to people who've inspected ninja openers, I think. Just really good at NIN.

[Kuroyasha]

About a month ago, someone asked, Chloro answered:



Shouldn't look all that alien to people who've inspected ninja openers, I think. Just really good at NIN.

I see. Only thing i never do is ta + kass in the same oGCD, nor jug+mug. I'll try it out and see how it goes, but yea not too different at all. Ill pray to the mudra gods of eorzea during next week coil run. I did notice on Lodestone chloro has a lot of diff pieces to go along with each turn, allowing her/him to get, for example, 558 crit 428 det and 396 SS for t10 while meeting acc cap for that turn at 632 dexterity. Very cool, but damn that gil for those rings(2 pentamelded 110 rings). xD

[Aiurily]

I see. Only thing i never do is ta + kass in the same oGCD, nor jug+mug.

doing se>trick>sf will still get a buffed sf, i've tested this

i used to do se>kassatsu+ta>sf and realized SF doesn't apply for that TA. if you do se>ta+kassatsu>sf it'll apply, but it'll still work with se>ta>sf as well, without gcd clipping that 99% of people will have

[Kuroyasha]

doing se>trick>sf will still get a buffed sf, i've tested this

i used to do se>kassatsu+ta>sf and realized SF doesn't apply for that TA. if you do se>ta+kassatsu>sf it'll apply, but it'll still work with se>ta>sf as well, without gcd clipping that 99% of people will have

Yea Se > ta > sf is what ive been doing all along. Sad to hear kass + ta wont apply to sf, cause it's the only way ive been able to try it without slight clpping my gcd. Ill try to switch some things around on hotbar to make it easiest to reach on my controller and see if it helps perform ta+kass eliminate the slight clip.

I do notice that when i do se > ta >sf > kass instead of chlro's my raiton is ready at 20 and ends at 18, but doing it chloro way i can consistently have 23 sec left when beginning raiton. This is even with my mudra lag (ps4 so no wtfast battleping etc). Maybe im mistiming or something doing my old way.

Edit: FFS i cannot get ta + kass in a single oGCD w/o clipping and, thus, missing AE on the last second of trick atk.

Edit 2: With some more practice got it to fit w/o clipping. Really have zero room for error on the timing. If u have any mudra lag on the Kassatsu'd raiton probably wont get that last AE to fit under TA, unless maybe sub in fuma. Nevertheless, the mudra rotation itself lines up significantly better for me than before in terms of how many seconds are left when doing second raiton and when refreshing huton.