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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    ......then you wont mind if someone on your server does it to you right now. Goes to all regions within your server shouting your name followed by the accusation your an early puller.
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    People are not blind. False accusation don't mean a thing. It is obvious who pulled first. I just make sure I am not the first pull, and always call out the pull time so there is no room for misunderstanding. The early pullers ignore the called pull time and it is very obvious who they are, and it gets more obvious at every A rank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    People are not blind. False accusation don't mean a thing. It is obvious who pulled first. I just make sure I am no the first pull, and always call out the pull time so there is no room for misunderstanding. The early pullers ignore the called pull time and it is very obvious who they are, and it gets more obvious at every A rank.
    Yes because clearly someone in Mor Dhona for example will have seen who pulled in Thanalan. You do a shout in Thanalan that you 'think' pulled early and word spreads across more regions through friends, FC's and linkshells. I state again are you saying you would have no problem if someone reading this thread who plays on your server goes around right now shouting your an early puller? Do you think just because you believe your always right about who pulls early, that every other person who does such shouts is also right? If you think doing such shouts is okay for you then surely it applies to everyone else or only you should do such shouts?

    Reality is quite often such shouts are not right, whether coming from someone who arrived late, someone blaming a player who happened to be in the area maybe not even taking part in the hunt when the hunt mob targeted them plus other examples like someone saying such because they simply do not like someone else...but pretty much all people accused via such shouts will get abuse and harassed, verbally insulted through tells and blacklisted regardless of accuracy of the person who did the shout. Do you consider them casualties of war? Do they deserve such harassment just because some idiot shouted their name and a accusation in regional chat which will spread through many other regions, linkshells and FC's?

    These shouts are nothing more than FF14 version of witch hunts. Regardless of guilt you will be harassed if someone does it to you and often has proved to be the case people are getting blamed despite not being guilty of the accusation...irregardless of your own personal bias towards the accuracy of your own accusations towards others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Yes because clearly someone in Mor Dhona for example will have seen who pulled in Thanalan.....
    If those people were going make false accusation in Mor Dhona about irrelevant stuff, nobody will be listening to them. LOL. If they wanted to do this, they wouldn't already done it many moons ago. People have eyes and can see who is early pulling. They don't got room to blacklist every gil seller and every made up name they hear in Mod Dhona. And if they search to find the person is offline, i.e. can not find them, good luck trying blacklist the offline person. Too funny.

    Have I accidentally faced fulled mob too early, yes. But I don't go repeating that mistake over and over on purpose. You earn your reputation as the early puller by doing it over and over. An FC can earn that reputation too when it is the same group doing it. It has been well documented that a FC has basically left our server because of trolling early pull behavior. People will catch on eventually to who the troublemakers really are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    If those people were going make false accusation in Mor Dhona about irrelevant stuff, nobody will be listening to them. LOL. If they wanted to do this, they wouldn't already done it many moons ago. People have eyes and can see who is early pulling. They don't got room to blacklist every gil seller and every made up name they hear in Mod Dhona. And if they search to find the person is offline, i.e. can not find them, good luck trying blacklist the offline person. Too funny.

    Have I accidentally faced fulled mob too early, yes. But I don't go repeating that mistake over and over on purpose. You earn your reputation as the early puller by doing it over and over. An FC can earn that reputation too when it is the same group doing it. It has been well documented that a FC has basically left our server because of trolling early pull behavior. People will catch on eventually to who the troublemakers really are.
    A reputation is not earned from only repeat 'accusations', people are blacklisted on the first 'accusation' in almost all cases, people would receive abuse on the first 'accusation' and every 'accusation' in almost every single case. The idea that people would get free passes until they are known as repeat offenders (which really is nothing more than repeat 'accusations' they did something wrong) aka gained a reputation from such 'accusations' multiple times is incredibly naive and ignorant. The harassment starts the moment they are 'accused' regardless of guilt or repeated 'accusations', each 'accusation' leads to abuse. It is a witch hunt, it is harassment and if we were on the same server I would report you for such any time I saw you do it.

    Notice how I emphasized the word accusations? That's because all these shouts ever are is such, they are not proof anyone did what was claimed and they are not evidence of someone doing what they are accused of doing. They are nothing more than someone accusing another person of doing something wrong but in almost every case the person accused gets abuse merely from the accusation. If you do not see something wrong with that then I feel sorry for you. Consider yourself lucky you were not alive during the actual fifteenth and eighteenth centuries where such witch hunts could of cost you your life from someone merely making 'accusations', the form of public shouts from those times. I do not care if you think you are always right about the people you accuse, fact is a lot of people are not and get harassed without the need for proof just because someone accused them in a public shout.
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