The 2.5 (Part 1 & 2) speculation thread

[Viridiana]

The red on black frame suggested that he was speaking the ancient language, but he was clearly speaking "Eorzean" in the voiced cutscenes.

The same ones where he makes it clear that Moenbryda still can't understand him, you mean?

No, I suspect there's something else going on. Perhaps as simple as Minfilia becoming stronger in the Echo.

[Anonymoose]

The same ones where he makes it clear that Moenbryda still can't understand him, you mean?

Now that you mention it, hearing him in English while having the "ancient language" subtitle frame and Moen not understanding is a frustrating break in delivery conventions from 2.0 - 2.45. I rather liked hearing the ancient language, so I sure hope it's tied to the lore somehow :\

Perhaps as simple as Minfilia becoming stronger in the Echo.

Also possible. Seeing the Sahagin leader's ascension did make her more determined, but then, again, why no ancient vocals?

[Viridiana]

I rather liked hearing the ancient language, so I sure hope it's tied to the lore somehow :\

Hmm. . .now I'm curious. I don't actually remember the quest(s?) where we hear ancient language. Mind saving me the trip through the Journey?

As for a possible lore reason, the only thing coming to mind would be that before when we heard the other language it would have been Lahabrea or Elidibus talking, neither of whom are "of this world."

[Anonymoose]

I don't actually remember the quest(s?) where we hear ancient language. Mind saving me the trip through the Journey?

You see it a few times, an Ixal even speaks it in the Grid into. "O Mounful Voice of Creation..." etc. etc. However hearing it?

Let's see... the Echo of the Battle of Cartenau at LV14... The Toto-rak pre-boss cutscene... aaand the post-Praetorium Ascian gathering.

Funny enough, Nabriales speaks the ancient language in that last one, albeit with a completely different voice.

it would have been Lahabrea or Elidibus talking, neither of whom are "of this world."

I thought they were the only two that were.

The blessing of light kept you and your fellow meddlers safe. It was that which prevented my kind from entering your domain. My kid, I say, though it held no power over the likes of Elidibus and Lahabrea. Being of this world, they could come and go as they please, while I could only look on... But no longer. Now that the seal is gone, I mean to act.

Weird that he referred to it as the seal, too. Methinks I haven't fully comprehended his meaning.

[Viridiana]

I thought they were the only two that were.

Weird that he referred to it as the seal, too. Methinks I haven't fully comprehended his meaning.

My bad. As I said, I was far from the inn at the time to re-watch. I'm a little more puzzled by the idea that the only thing protecting the Stones from Ascian invasion is the blessing on us. After all, none of the other Scions met Midgardsomr to have their blessings stripped.

Also, you put the wrong name on the QUOTE= part

[PArcher]

After all, none of the other Scions met Midgardsomr to have their blessings stripped.

No one else had the Blessing of Light though. He didn't take away our Echo (we may not Echo-trip after seeing Mid, yet, but we can still understand different languages, which is a hallmark of our Echo...and have gained the ability to sense Ascians, but whether that's a new Echo power or Mid's blessing I have no idea), just the Blessing...and we really don't know what the Blessing actually does (though, we can assume its some sort of Ascian shield based on how it kept them out of the Rising Stones and kept you safe in the Praetorium)

I'm sure the Crystals of Light were a key part of keeping the Blessing active...for obvious reasons. No one else had any once we collected the set (as far as we know) either, so assuming there was just one set we were the only one with the Blessing